Next Hurricane to Hit Florida?

[Trausti]

See, the thing is, sticking your head in the sand is just stupid. I'm going to believe actual climate scientists over a random climate denier. Every time.

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. But I certainly think it's stupid to try and blame everything on climate change. Like the climate "scientists" at the World Weather Attribution. They clearly have an agenda. Look at their event papers and publications. Amazingly, they've never not found that natural events are due to climate change: https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/event-papers/

 

[Resume]

I'm

A climate change denier, a reality denier. Why, I don't know.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. But I certainly think it's stupid to try and blame everything on climate change. Like the climate "scientists" at the World Weather Attribution. They clearly have an agenda. Look at their event papers and publications. Amazingly, they've never not found that natural events are due to climate change: https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/event-papers/

Or.... maybe, just maybe, the people who have studied and specialized in this field have been actually right the past 70+ years they predicted that not doing anything will cause more damage down the line.

But you are right, we don't know 100% sure if, had we curbed CO2 emissions in the 70's this hurricane would not have caused as much damage as it did.
Best to not do anything that might cost money, maybe the real cost will come once you are dead. It worked for the politicians of the 70's 80's and 90's, so why not for you?

 

[a_unique_person]

See, the thing is, sticking your head in the sand is just stupid. I'm going to believe actual climate scientists over a random climate denier. Every time.


ETA: Also too, Milton wasn't expected to intensify nearly as quickly as it did because Helene pulled the heated gulf water 10 days earlier. But the waters heated up much more quickly than forcast. That's what was astonishing.

This. Usually a hurricane "sucks" the heat energy out of the water. Not literally but I guess that approximates what happens. The record high temperatures give the hurricane creating engine more energy to power it.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

If you want to stay on top of hurricane development, Mr Weatherman is your Go To guy.

https://www.youtube.com/@MrWeatherman

 

[LiteBright]

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. But I certainly think it's stupid to try and blame everything on climate change. Like the climate "scientists" at the World Weather Attribution. They clearly have an agenda. Look at their event papers and publications. Amazingly, they've never not found that natural events are due to climate change: https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/event-papers/

You have lost the right to call ANYONE stupid based on your inane rantings in this thread.

 

[Myriad]

If you want to stay on top of hurricane development, Mr Weatherman is your Go To guy.

https://www.youtube.com/@MrWeatherman

Max Velocity (similar number of subscribers to MrWeatherman) and Ryan Hall (over 3x as many subscribers as either of them) have also done very well with the recent events, with posted updates and live streams on YouTube. Any of the three will give you 10 times the information as The Weather Channel, without TWC's 5-minute commercial blocks out of every 10 minutes.

Not sure which of the three is best, or how many more good ones might be out there.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

The drama on TWC drives me nuts...

 

[jimbob]

Or.... maybe, just maybe, the people who have studied and specialized in this field have been actually right the past 70+ years they predicted that not doing anything will cause more damage down the line.

But you are right, we don't know 100% sure if, had we curbed CO2 emissions in the 70's this hurricane would not have caused as much damage as it did.
Best to not do anything that might cost money, maybe the real cost will come once you are dead. It worked for the politicians of the 70's 80's and 90's, so why not for you?

That's the thing. No individual hurricane can be attributed to anthropogenic global warming, but the likelihood of severe hurricanes has massively increased.

Pretending otherwise, is just stupid or disingenuous.

 

[Orphia Nay]

It's like Trausti thinks people are claiming climate change acts like the hand of god and picks out individual hurricanes to affect out of the blue.

I guess that his misconception happens when he's got blinders on all the other weather events intensifying over decades.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Now now, we all know that Hurricanes are just God punishing people that have angered it.

People that haven't angered god, given the reasons that various pastors give for the hurricanes striking.

It's amazing that places like New York or Amsterdam rarely, if ever, suffer from hurricanes given that they're supposed to be god's punishment for the gay.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Climate change? The weather is always changing and always has been. For Gawd sakes!

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That's basicly the response my aunt, a farmer's wife and retired teacher, gave a few weeks ago when the subject came up during a family dinner. Some people don't think about what they're not to think about, indeed; to paraphrase Sinclair.

 

[bobdroege7]

This. Usually a hurricane "sucks" the heat energy out of the water. Not literally but I guess that approximates what happens. The record high temperatures give the hurricane creating engine more energy to power it.

Yes, literally.

It's the evaporation at the surface that takes the energy of the water and deposits it in the cloud layer, causing a reduction in atmospheric pressure. And a feedback loop causing further reduction in central pressure.

The lower the pressure the stronger the hurricane.

Nice try at being diplomatic though.

Yes it literally sucks the energy from the surface.

 

[bobdroege7]

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. But I certainly think it's stupid to try and blame everything on climate change. Like the climate "scientists" at the World Weather Attribution. They clearly have an agenda. Look at their event papers and publications. Amazingly, they've never not found that natural events are due to climate change: https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/event-papers/

One they are not blaming everything on climate change.

Two, read the penultimate paper title.

 

[Hercules56]

I'm not sticking my head in the sand. But I certainly think it's stupid to try and blame everything on climate change. Like the climate "scientists" at the World Weather Attribution. They clearly have an agenda. Look at their event papers and publications. Amazingly, they've never not found that natural events are due to climate change: https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/event-papers/

Warmer water= stronger hurricanes. This isn't rocket science.

 

[Checkmite]

If we're sharing information sources about hurricanes, my recommendation is Tropical Tidbits, a website and YouTube channel run by Dr. Levi Cowan, who is a professional meteorologist. He tends to only post videos when there is a storm developing with the potential to impact land; but unlike...every other "weather YouTube" channel, Cowan's channel isn't personality-driven. He doesn't have a studio with RGB lighting and entire banks of monitors, he doesn't hold marathon livestreams where he reads Twitter feeds during storms. In fact he never shows his face in his videos at all.

What he does show is maps, charts, and satellite imagery, along with sober and straightforward commentary. He explains what a storm is expected to do, and goes over the various atmospheric environment and factors that are leading forecasters to expect that.

Here for example is his first video on Milton, and it is representative of all the videos he makes on every storm. No hype, no spectacle, only facts, science, and information.