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Next Hurricane to Hit Florida?

the temperature of just Tampa water is obviously not the only thing to consider.. the temperature of the water on the whole path is what needs to be considered.
 
Trausti said:
Are you not aware that hurricanes occur during hurricane season and strike areas in hurricane zones? When Milton made landfall it was a Cat 3. What makes this hurricane any different then all the other hurricanes? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. If we get hurricane formation in February, then that might be something.
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A quick search returned numerous reliable answers to ‘was Milton unique’. All results answered in the affirmative and provided at least three particulars that made Milton extraordinary.

Climate change deniers are compelled to resort to ever sillier arguments each year.
 
sarge said:
A quick search returned numerous reliable answers to ‘was Milton unique’. All results answered in the affirmative and provided at least three particulars that made Milton extraordinary.

Climate change deniers are compelled to resort to ever sillier arguments each year.
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Now now, we all know that Hurricanes are just God punishing people that have angered it.
 
sarge said:
...Climate change deniers are compelled to resort to ever sillier arguments each year.
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Climate change? The weather is always changing and always has been. For Gawd sakes! :mad:

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What makes this hurricane any different then all the other hurricanes? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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Absolute horse ****.

Here’s what has made Hurricane Milton so fierce and unusual . . .

Warm water fueled amazingly rapid intensification that took Milton from a minimal hurricane to a massive Category 5 in less than 10 hours. It weakened, but quickly bounced back, and when its winds briefly reached 180 mph, its barometric pressure, a key measurement for a storm’s overall strength, was among the lowest recorded in the Gulf of Mexico this late in the year.

At its most fierce, Milton almost maxed out its potential intensity given the weather factors surrounding it.

That’s not all. Milton’s eastward path through the Gulf is so infrequent the most recent comparable storm was in 1848. Tampa — the most populous metro area in its general path — hasn’t had a direct hit from a major storm in more than 100 years, making this week the worst-case scenario for many experts.

The track “is not unprecedented but it’s quite rare,” said University of Miami hurricane researcher Brian McNoldy. “And of those that did that track, this is by far the most intense.”

Milton formed in the Bay of Campeche in the southwestern Gulf of Mexico. For awhile, forecasters didn’t give the unstable air mass much of a chance to develop into a tropical storm, let alone a monster hurricane. But once it defied the odds, it took off because of warm water and it managed to avoid high-level cross winds that often decapitate storms, especially in autumn. As Milton neared Florida it hit those winds, called shear, which ate away at its strength, as meteorologists had forecasted.
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Resume said:
Absolute horse ****.
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Can you identify any hurricane in the last decade which was more powerful than any other recorded hurricane in the past 100 years? It's obvious you're trying to shoehorn climate change into a ho-hum hurricane.

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Sigh.

Global warming increased wind speeds by 10% and rainfall by 20-30%

Milton intensified to Category 5 in less than 24 hours

Milton is the third-fastest intensifying Atlantic hurricane on record
Oct 11 (Reuters) - The brutal wind and torrential rainfall of Hurricane Milton that killed 16 people in Florida this week were worsened by human-caused climate change, a team of international scientists said on Friday.
Global warming made wind speeds around 10% stronger and rainfall greater by between 20% and 30%, according to an analysis by World Weather Attribution. The group of climate scientists studies the role of climate change in fueling extreme weather.

Milton intensified from a Category 1 storm into a tempestuous Category 5 in less than 24 hours, feeding off record- and near-record-warm waters in the Gulf of Mexico. It made landfall in Florida as a Category 3 hurricane.
Previous scientific analyses have shown climate change has made such temperatures in the Gulf between 400 and 800 times more likely.
This extra heat made Milton the third-fastest intensifying Atlantic hurricane on record, the U.S. National Hurricane Center said, with maximum sustained wind speeds reaching 180 mph (290 kph).

The scientist group noted that rainfall storms similar to Milton are now about twice as likely as they would be without human-induced warming.
“This study has confirmed what should already be abundantly clear: climate change is supercharging storms, and burning fossil fuels is to blame," said Ian Duff, a campaigner at environmental nonprofit Greenpeace. "Millions of people across Florida - many of whom lack insurance - now face astronomical costs to rebuild shattered homes and communities."
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newyorkguy said:
I have daughters in Florida so I worry a lot about this. The Gulf of Mexico is about four degrees hotter right now than is average for this time of year and that's making everything worse.


Gov. DeSantis continues to play politics with these issues -- he describes himself as "not a global warming person" (whatever that means) -- and he's doing it, ironically, in one of the states most vulnerable to climate change effects.
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I Know it is an old,old joke but De Santis is basically the mayor of Amityville in "Jaws".
 
Trausti said:
Can you identify any hurricane in the last decade which was more powerful than any other recorded hurricane in the past 100 years? It's obvious you're trying to shoehorn climate change into a ho-hum hurricane.

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Miltion was not exactly a ho hum hurricane.
I see you tactic on Global Warmins is to stick your fingers in your ears and run aroud saying 'La La La I Don't Hear You".
 
sarge said:
A quick search returned numerous reliable answers to ‘was Milton unique’. All results answered in the affirmative and provided at least three particulars that made Milton extraordinary.

Climate change deniers are compelled to resort to ever sillier arguments each year.
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And we just had a beaut in this thread.
It has become right wing politcal dogma, and politicla dogma is every bit as bad as religious dogma.
 
Resume said:
Sigh.
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This really seems like a hammer only seeing nails. It's common for hurricanes to rapidly intesnsivfy from Cat 1 to Cat 4 or 5 in 24 hours. There's nothing special about Milton.

Hurricane Michael

Michael intensified at a heart-stopping rate while moving through the eastern Gulf of Mexico, rocketing from Category 1 to Category 4 strength in just 24 hours less than a day before landfall.
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Hurrican Andrew

As a result, Andrew reached hurricane status on August 22, when it was located 650 miles southeast of Nassau, Bahamas. Twenty-four hours later, Andrew underwent rapid intensification and became a major hurricane Category 5.
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Hurricane Camille

Located in a favorable environment for strengthening, the storm quickly intensified into a Category 2 hurricane before striking the western part of Cuba on August 15. Emerging into the Gulf of Mexico, Camille underwent another period of rapid intensification and became a Category 5 hurricane the next day as it moved northward towards Louisiana and Mississippi.
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And the Reuters article attributes the climate change finding to a group that presumes at the start that climate change is the cause. Come on, man.
 
dudalb said:
Miltion was not exactly a ho hum hurricane.
I see you tactic on Global Warmins is to stick your fingers in your ears and run aroud saying 'La La La I Don't Hear You".
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My tactic on global warming is not be so gullible to believe that every natural disaster in past decade is because of it. Not to be so gullible to allow government, or anyone else, to use global warming as a pretext for more taxation, more government control, and to reorder society. I'm keenly aware that those who lecture us about global warming blissfully spit out tons of CO2 as they fly off to yet another COP climate conference.
 
Trausti said:
My tactic on global warming is not be so gullible to believe that every natural disaster in past decade is because of it. Not to be so gullible to allow government, or anyone else, to use global warming as a pretext for more taxation, more government control, and to reorder society. I'm keenly aware that those who lecture us about global warming blissfully spit out tons of CO2 as they fly off to yet another COP climate conference.
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SO just what industry do what it wants regarless of the damage to the enviroment. RIght.
ANy solutions to the problem>'
Or I forgot. You don't think there is a problem.
 
Political dogma is just as bad as religiious dogma when it comes to making otherwise intelligent people beleive stupid stuff. Look at how Penn and Teller were Climate Change Deniers for a long time because of their Libertarian Dogma.
 
Trausti said:
Come on, man.
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See, the thing is, sticking your head in the sand is just stupid. I'm going to believe actual climate scientists over a random climate denier. Every time.


ETA: Also too, Milton wasn't expected to intensify nearly as quickly as it did because Helene pulled the heated gulf water 10 days earlier. But the waters heated up much more quickly than forcast. That's what was astonishing.
 
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dudalb said:
SO just what industry do what it wants regarless of the damage to the enviroment. RIght.
ANy solutions to the problem>'
Or I forgot. You don't think there is a problem.
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No chicken little, the sky is not falling.
 
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