Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

[abaddon]

But you said "I know none", and now suddenly you appear to know one for 40 years. Are you sure your "psychiatrist" is not your ex-wife? What's her specialty, general medicine or psy?

I am not responsible for recording all of the specialities of my friends. It is your baloney that provoked me to rack my brains for a specialist. It is your baloney which made me dredge her up. Frankly, when we meet, our specific specialities are off the agenda. It's all about family. It took me a while to recall "hey, doesn't she operate in the area of mental health?" because I don't know about you, but I do not generally classify life long friends according to their chosen metier. It seems that you do.

It seems that I appear to have hundreds of friends, acquaintances and relatives which took some time to trawl through until I hit the one who had subject matter expertise. It also seems that you care not that I made that effort. It also seems that the effort was pointless because you don't care.

 

[Michel H]

... It also seems that the effort was pointless because you don't care.

Mmm, I wouldn't say that, I wouldn't go that far, I think. You were the first one who did the effort a consulting a person who seems to work in the area of mental health, on this forum, and I think you deserve credit for this. However, I think it would help me if you could specify a little bit more clearly (!) this person's degree (there is a whole variety of degrees in mental care, she could be a nurse for example).

 

[Michel H]

A long distance telepathy test: which word did I write?

Hi, I invite you to participate in a simple telepathy test.

At about 9:00 p.m. on this Tuesday February 23 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the four words: "Sydney", "Brisbane", "Auckland" and "Hamilton" (names of large cities in Australia or in New Zealand) on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice.

I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test, and I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know". It might perhaps be useful also that you say how confident you are in your answer.

I also request that you let me know your geographical location (for example: "I am in Sydney", or "I am in New York", or "I am in London"; this may be important to me, because I want to study possible correlations between telepathy and distance).

Thank you for participating.

Notes:
1) I am also doing this test on the Australasian Skeptics Forum: http://australasianskeptics.info/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2848
2) An excellent (and correct) answer kindly provided by Tiktaalik in a previous test was:

4

I know it. I'm absolutely sure. I feel it inside of me ...

.

 

[Sideroxylon]

What would you consider a success and failure of your test?

 

[Michel H]

What would you consider a success and failure of your test?

I would certainly be delighted if you could provide the city I really wrote and repeated. However, based on my experience of many tests, a slightly subtle work of interpretation of the results is generally needed.

 

[abaddon]

Hi, I invite you to participate in a simple telepathy test.

At about 9:00 p.m. on this Tuesday February 23 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the four words: "Sydney", "Brisbane", "Auckland" and "Hamilton" (names of large cities in Australia or in New Zealand) on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice.

I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test, and I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know". It might perhaps be useful also that you say how confident you are in your answer.

I also request that you let me know your geographical location (for example: "I am in Sydney", or "I am in New York", or "I am in London"; this may be important to me, because I want to study possible correlations between telepathy and distance).

Thank you for participating.

Notes:
1) I am also doing this test on the Australasian Skeptics Forum: http://australasianskeptics.info/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2848
2) An excellent (and correct) answer kindly provided by Tiktaalik in a previous test was:
.

No.

You have failed at every attempt.

Go see your healthcare professional.

 

[Sideroxylon]

I would certainly be delighted if you could provide the city I really wrote and repeated. However, based on my experience of many tests, a slightly subtle work of interpretation of the results is generally needed.

What sorts of interpretations? And how do you ensure you are not fudging the results?

 

[Michel H]

What sorts of interpretations? And how do you ensure you are not fudging the results?

I have tried to explain this important aspect of my work, in a simple way, to EHocking a few days ago:

While the results of my first two tests on this forum were good, I think, they were not so good that I could afford analyzing them by just counting up how many answers were right, how many were wrong, and calculating percentages.

As I have explained, I had to do assess "credibilities", for each reply. For example, if someone replies: "I know for a fact that you wrote a 4", and the next person answers:" Tis is a ridiculus ******* "test", I can only use a die. I sai 3", I would assign a positive credibility rating to the first person, and a negative credibility rating to the next person. In this way, it is possible to greatly improve the results, in a reasonably objective way.

Similarly, the results of my latest tests on this forum, which provided relatively low quality evidence, needed that type of credibility analysis.

I am pretty confident that my psychological analyses of the results of my tests are reliable. Am I one hundred percent confident they are reliable? No, of course.

 

[Daylightstar]

I have requested this thread to be merged with the op's other 'telepathy tests' thread.

 

[AdMan]

Hi, I invite you to participate in a simple telepathy test.

At about 9:00 p.m. on this Tuesday February 23 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the four words: "Sydney", "Brisbane", "Auckland" and "Hamilton" (names of large cities in Australia or in New Zealand) on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice.

I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test, and I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know". It might perhaps be useful also that you say how confident you are in your answer.

I also request that you let me know your geographical location (for example: "I am in Sydney", or "I am in New York", or "I am in London"; this may be important to me, because I want to study possible correlations between telepathy and distance).

Thank you for participating.

Notes:
1) I am also doing this test on the Australasian Skeptics Forum: http://australasianskeptics.info/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2848
2) An excellent (and correct) answer kindly provided by Tiktaalik in a previous test was:
.

Yet another garbage, useless test.

And once again you show how utterly unable you are to detect sarcasm.

 

[Michel H]

Yet another garbage, useless test.

And once again you show how utterly unable you are to detect sarcasm.

Once again, I do not detect sarcasm in Tiktaalik's post, from about three years ago:

4

I know it. I'm absolutely sure. I feel it inside of me, and if you haven't felt it, you don't know what it's like. If you had felt it, you would know it was 4, so if you think it is not 4, you have obviously not felt it. 4 is the one true number.

It could be untrue, for some reason (this is different), but I don't view this as sarcasm, or mockery. It seems to me that the fact that the answers which sound serious and friendly tend to be correct, while aggressive answers (sadly, not an unusual occurrence on this forum, I am afraid), or non-credible answers (for whatever reason), tend to be incorrect, implies that there must probably be some real telepathic phenomenon going on. Surprising, unusual, sure. However, I am much closer to you than these two orbiting black holes whose gravitational waves were detected a few months ago (these waves, travelling at the speed of light, took more than a billion years to reach us, and light is not known for travelling at snail pace).

I sadly suspect that people who view Tiktaalik's answer as "sarcasm" are probably disingenuous.

Adman, did you ever ask Randi for his opinion about my telepathy work on this forum? It could perhaps be interesting that we know it.
I also repeat my suggestion that members of this forum who are active in this thread talk about it with a serious, respected and respectable psychiatrist for a few minutes, and report what he (she) said here (and it would probably be better to say publicly the name of this medical professional, a sign of seriousness, indicating that s/he is real and is perhaps willing to put one's reputation on the line). Of course, I won't pay the bill, but I would be grateful. I consulted a doctor myself, about my mental health and apparent telepathy issues in September of last year, in the Adult Psychiatry of a large hospital; he did not rule out that I might be a victim of some telepathy phenomena (he mentioned Freud, who wrote two texts about telepathy).

So, did I write Sydney, Brisbane, Auckland, or Hamilton on my paper? Nobody has a clue? I see that I already got two answers on the Australian Skeptics forum. Can't do that here?

 

[JohnnyG]

My prediction...
Should you get enough replies here to perform statistics (which is doubtful), approximately 25% of them will be correct.

I'll kick it off by guessing Brisbane.

 

[ComfySlippers]

Hi, I invite you to participate in a simple telepathy test.



At about 9:00 p.m. on this Tuesday February 23 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the four words: "Sydney", "Brisbane", "Auckland" and "Hamilton" (names of large cities in Australia or in New Zealand) on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice.



I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test, and I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know". It might perhaps be useful also that you say how confident you are in your answer.



I also request that you let me know your geographical location (for example: "I am in Sydney", or "I am in New York", or "I am in London"; this may be important to me, because I want to study possible correlations between telepathy and distance).



Thank you for participating.



Notes:

1) I am also doing this test on the Australasian Skeptics Forum: http://australasianskeptics.info/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2848

2) An excellent (and correct) answer kindly provided by Tiktaalik in a previous test was:

.

Is a symptom of your mental illness that you forget how many times you've tried this nonsense before?
Or that the majority of folk here have witnessed all your many attempts at this nonsense?

Are you assuming that if you wait a few months the members here will all be new ones?

You're told time and time again to quit your nonsense and go back to see your Doctor.

 

[Michel H]

My prediction...
Should you get enough replies here to perform statistics (which is doubtful), approximately 25% of them will be correct.

I'll kick it off by guessing Brisbane.

Thank you for your answer, Johnny.

 

[calebprime]

Once again, I do not detect sarcasm in Tiktaalik's post, from about three years ago:

[Edit]

I sadly suspect that people who view Tiktaalik's answer as "sarcasm" are probably disingenuous.

... I consulted a doctor myself, about my mental health and apparent telepathy issues in September of last year, in the Adult Psychiatry of a large hospital; he did not rule out that I might be a victim of some telepathy phenomena (he mentioned Freud, who wrote two texts about telepathy).
...

Michel.

I have read many, many of Tiktaalik's posts, enough to have some sense of how to understand what was said. Call it sarcasm, call it whatever you like with or without scare-quotes. (Please, don't get hung up on scare-quotes, the two-word phrase.)

You say this kind of thing over and over and over. In every single case, now in the dozens, that you have not detected humor or sarcasm or irony or whatever you want to call it -- in every case, it's been exactly that: humor or sarcasm or irony.

You write well. On top of that, parts of your intellect appear to me to be working just fine. Your ablility to understand other people seems completely impaired to me.



You don't read enough here, and you don't know the people well enough, to understand.

You're being too literal about people here.

One further note: If you thought about your remark about Freud for a second, you wouldn't have gone there. Freud will not support your cause. Freud was a realist (a tragic realist) first, and a self-promoter. In any case, Freud is not considered any kind of authority on anything but Freudian theory and practice: He was a gifted rhetorician whose writing leaps from one idea to another without justification. Very entertaining, but pre-scientific. Which Freud himself knew.

And, a psychiatrist's first priority is to establish a working alliance with you -- not to argue.

 

[Michel H]

Is a symptom of your mental illness that you forget how many times you've tried this nonsense before?
Or that the majority of folk here have witnessed all your many attempts at this nonsense?

Are you assuming that if you wait a few months the members here will all be new ones?

You're told time and time again to quit your nonsense and go back to see your Doctor.

If I went back to see "my doctor", I could perhaps show him a very interesting post:

Well, perhaps I can point out that my total number of posts on this forum is about the quarter of yours.

You could.
But surely I'd have received your thoughts about this already.

that you wrote yourself about a year ago, and which seemed to support my views, about my tendency to communicate my thoughts to others.

Actually, before I return to the doctor, I would like to have somewhat more solid/robust evidence on my still hypothetical telepathy, and to have studied a possible influence of distance on the effect. In addition to the online tests, I am now doing telephone tests to study this possible effect of distance. On Monday for example (and in the early morning of Tuesday), I first did a telephone test with "telephone psychic" relatively near my home, and then, later, with another psychic located in French Polynesia, near "the other side of the Earth". When I asked the Polynesia lady how much I had to pay, she replied "nothing", this was very kind of her (this illustrates the fact psychics are not all thieves). I also did a test with a male psychologist in 2006, also in French Polynesia, who also charged nothing.

Also, a reason why I might consult a psychiatrist (or, perhaps, a psychologist) could be to just do a test with him/her in his/her office, I have already done this twice, with two psychiatrists.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
I sadly suspect that people who view Tiktaalik's answer as "sarcasm" are probably disingenuous.
...

It was mockery.

...
Adman, did you ever ask Randi for his opinion about my telepathy work on this forum? It could perhaps be interesting that we know it.
I also repeat my suggestion that members of this forum who are active in this thread talk about it with a serious, respected and respectable psychiatrist for a few minutes, and report what he (she) said here (and it would probably be better to say publicly the name of this medical professional, a sign of seriousness, indicating that s/he is real and is perhaps willing to put one's reputation on the line). Of course, I won't pay the bill, but I would be grateful. I consulted a doctor myself, about my mental health and apparent telepathy issues in September of last year, in the Adult Psychiatry of a large hospital; he did not rule out that I might be a victim of some telepathy phenomena (he mentioned Freud, who wrote two texts about telepathy).

So, did I write Sydney, Brisbane, Auckland, or Hamilton on my paper? Nobody has a clue? I see that I already got two answers on the Australian Skeptics forum. Can't do that here?

Who cares?

 

[Daylightstar]

My prediction...
Should you get enough replies here to perform statistics (which is doubtful), approximately 25% of them will be correct.

I'll kick it off by guessing Brisbane.

It is rather unfortunate that you go along with this particular guessing game.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
that you wrote yourself about a year ago, and which seemed to support my views, about my tendency to communicate my thoughts to others.
...

It didn't.
He was saying that in stead of telling him your fraction of posts compared to his, he would (if you actually could broadcast your thoughts) surely have received those thoughts already. He hadn't.

You are not broadcasting your thoughts, you have a delusion that you do.

 

[ComfySlippers]

If I went back to see "my doctor", I could perhaps show him a very interesting post:
.....

I've done you the favour of capturing and saving your post for you.
Please feel free to take it to your Doctor.
Let us know what he says.

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You are not telepathic and I've never said you were.
That you read otherwise into the post I've captured for your Doctor merely demonstrates one of your problems.

Edited by Agatha: 

Edited to shrink picture as it was stretching the page for some readers/browsers