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[chipmunk stew]

Hi Donal!

Quick clarification on the Windsor building. I am not using it as a reference point to the actual collapse (as some conspiracy sites do). I am merely referring to the reaction of the steel to the heat. That is, the gradual bending.
I could have used the reference to the toilet factory to make my point. That is all.

Thanks!

The gradual bending you see at the Windsor building was because the steel got hot and soft enough to sag under its own weight. Long before steel gets soft enough to sag, its load-bearing capacity diminishes (i.e. it weakens). If the steel happens to be bearing an enormous load (like a building, say) as it weakens, it will fail nearly instantaneously.

 

[Hyperviolet]

Though right now I am reserving judgement, let me say that PDoh has had enough socks in here to lose a dozen to the dryer, and still clothe his feet for a week.

As for the "Mark of Woo", the first stage is present, but so it is almost all new arrivals. The truth will present itself sooner or later.

For now I am taking Hyperviolet on face value.

TAM

Thanks TAM, i appreciate that.

I have not come hear to cause problems, but to learn.

 

[Augustine]

You are correct; the CIA did have involvement.

But the CIA is not remotely equivalent to Military Intelligence. That's my point. If you are going to seriously discuss topics like this, you need to be clear about your terms.

To clarify: Military Intelligence (MI) is one branch (sub-branch) of the U.S. Army which, on a tactical level handles both security and intelligence analysis, as well as limited OPFOR (opposing forces) simulated play. At higher levels, it deals primarily with determination of collection requirements, tasking of organic collectors (primarily electronic and not human), and analysis of enormous amounts of collected data.

MI does not have operatives or agents in the sense the CIA does, nor does it get involved in training of foreign covert groups as the CIA did with Battalion 316 in El Salvador.

Hope that helps.

Absolutely correct, I would also add that Oliver North was an Infantry Officer, not an Intelligence Officer. Distrust of Military Intelligence supposedly because of Iran Contra is baseless.

 

[Without Rights]

I know it's early and that this is no way to treat a new member, so I apologize in advance if I am wrong, but I would like to take this opportunity to voice my "gut" feeling of , and dedicate it to P'Doh.

In the case that you're not the latest and greatest incarnation of that fool, however, welcome aboard, and would you mind telling us what you mean by "some government involvement" and what specifically makes you suspect this? We don't normally use "unanswered questions" to base any sort of belief upon; rather we strive to answer those questions with real evidence.

Do you have any evidence you would like to share, or is yours just a gut feeling, like mine, which you could admittedly be wrong about?

I thought I was P'doh?

 

[Garrette]

I thought I was P'doh?

I am Kirk Douglas, I mean Spartacus.

 

[chipmunk stew]

I am Kirk Douglas, I mean Spartacus.

Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I thought I was P'doh?

False dilemma

 

[Brainster]

Allow for any part of the day to be MIHOP, and you end up needing almost everything else to be MIHOP, because losing any one link risks exposing the whole plot for all to see.

Excellent point!

 

[skepticalcriticalguy]

No thats me remember?

Me too. I was P'doh for a while. I think it's a common greeting. A little paranoia.

 

[T.A.M.]

I thought I was P'doh?

lol...we could turn the PDoh Sock thing into the scene from "Sparticus"...

I am PDoh...No I am PDoh....I am PDoh.

TAM

Edit: DOh! (no P), seems great minds, with a touch of paranoia, think alike.

TAM

 

[Without Rights]

Thanks TAM, i appreciate that.

I have not come hear to cause problems, but to learn.

I forsee problems, although not caused by you. If you don't want to get attacked here then just nod your head and agree with everybody. If not, I hope you don't mind a barrage of insults coming from all directions. And that's coming from someone who isn't even sure what happened that fateful day.

 

[Horatius]

Okay, it's time to admit it - We're all PD'oh! The entire JREF forum is just a psychotic fantasy acting out in his head!

 

[Without Rights]

Me too. I was P'doh for a while. I think it's a common greeting. A little paranoia.

There might be only one truther in the world, and his name is P'doh.

 

[skepticalcriticalguy]

Absolutely correct, I would also add that Oliver North was an Infantry Officer, not an Intelligence Officer. Distrust of Military Intelligence supposedly because of Iran Contra is baseless.

Do members of military intelligence wear a "military intelligence" badge and nametag? I would hope not. So how do we know he was not military intel?

 

[skepticalcriticalguy]

I forsee problems, although not caused by you. If you don't want to get attacked here then just nod your head and agree with everybody. If not, I hope you don't mind a barrage of insults coming from all directions. And that's coming from someone who isn't even sure what happened that fateful day.

Nobody, NOBODY knows what happened that fateful day. Except those who did it.

 

[Without Rights]

Okay, it's time to admit it - We're all PD'oh! The entire JREF forum is just a psychotic fantasy acting out in his head!

Whoa!!! That's deep.

 

[Horatius]

Me too. I was P'doh for a while. I think it's a common greeting. A little paranoia.

Already been discussed.


There really isn't anything new going on, is there?

 

[T.A.M.]

I forsee problems, although not caused by you. If you don't want to get attacked here then just nod your head and agree with everybody. If not, I hope you don't mind a barrage of insults coming from all directions. And that's coming from someone who isn't even sure what happened that fateful day.

While I cannot, and will not speak for all here, I try at least, to be helpful and free from antagonism unless someone starts to make accusations on something, in which case, like most here, I demand proof. If it is not presented, I consider the accusation useless at best, hurtful and slanderous at worst.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Okay, it's time to admit it - We're all PD'oh! The entire JREF forum is just a psychotic fantasy acting out in his head!

So maybe the JREF is PDoh's "Matrix".

LOL

TAM

 

[Garrette]

Do members of military intelligence wear a "military intelligence" badge and nametag? I would hope not. So how do we know he was not military intel?

Yes, they do. At least did with all the previous uniforms.

An Army officer chooses (or is assigned) a specific branch. In my case, I chose Military Intelligence. That meant my file read 35A (at first; then it was changed to 35D, though I also have training in 35C and 35E). It's not classified, and never was.

On my greens and blues, I wore the shiny Military Intelligence branch symbol.

On my field uniforms, the subdued cloth version of the Military Intelligence branch symbol was on my collar.

The latest uniforms (ACUs) no longer sport the branch symbols, but officers are still assigned based on their branches, and the branch is not classified.