New Bigfoot Video

GT/CS said:
Maybe they get one BFF dollar every time a skeptic responds to one of their posts.
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Yes. Think about the times you were pulling someone's leg and they responded to you in earnest. Then you said increasingly absurd things until they finally understood you were putting them on.

The reason you proceeded that far is because you wanted to let them know you were gaming them. Your conscience would not allow you to deceive them forever.

I am very impressed at this mighty boar hunter in the video, armed with a rifle, running like a little girl.

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and I mean a REALLY little girl.

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A little boy armed with a rifle doesn't run.

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Nor does a boy with a pistol -

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I would not be out on the internet broadcasting what a coward I was compared to little boys and girls.
 
Why don't they simply send 'Mantracker' in. He'll find our elusive fat toed friend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantracker
Mantracker is a Canadian reality television series created by Ihor Macijiwsky and produced by Bonterra Productions. It premiered in Canada in April 2006 on the Outdoor Life Network. In the United States, the show currently airs on the Science Channel and Discovery Family, and in the UK on Extreme Sports Channel. The episodes of the first six seasons feature Terry Grant, an expert tracker called the "Mantracker", who pursues two individuals in the remote Canadian or American wilderness. The pursued, referred to as "Prey", must elude capture while attempting to reach a finish line within thirty-six hours. In season 7, Chad Savage Lenz replaces Terry Grant as the Mantracker.[1]
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I was thinking of Terry Grant when I typed this, but then I noticed the guys name that took over from Terry in series 7. If Chad Savage Lenz can't get a decent pic of BF then no one can.
 
AlaskaBushPilot said:
Yes. Think about the times you were pulling someone's leg and they responded to you in earnest. Then you said increasingly absurd things until they finally understood you were putting them on.

The reason you proceeded that far is because you wanted to let them know you were gaming them. Your conscience would not allow you to deceive them forever.

I am very impressed at this mighty boar hunter in the video, armed with a rifle, running like a little girl.

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and I mean a REALLY little girl.

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A little boy armed with a rifle doesn't run.

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Nor does a boy with a pistol -

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I would not be out on the internet broadcasting what a coward I was compared to little boys and girls.
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Am I missing something here? What has that post got to do with anything in this thread?
 
GT/CS said:
Maybe they get one BFF dollar every time a skeptic responds to one of their posts. It's a game within a game.
Sweaty set the standard and now Chris and OS are trying to break his record. NL won't come close unless he really picks up the pace.
It's more difficult than it seems because they need to figure out just how far to push the envelope line so they don't end up on ignore.
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pfffttt, not going to happen. Occasional poster, at best.
 
welshdean said:
Am I missing something here? What has that post got to do with anything in this thread?
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Yes. Had you read the post, and seen the reference to the mighty boar hunter that posted the video in question, it might have caused you to look at the narrative this mighty boar hunter wrote when posting his video, in which he was describing his encounter while boar hunting.

That boar shot by the 11 year old boy above with a pistol was over a thousand pounds, on the order of five times larger than the figure the mighty boar hunter ran from.

A little girl is capable of shooting an animal larger than this man ran from, and smiles brightly to the camera afterwards instead of talking about what a little sissy she was.
 
JohnG said:
I don't believe that anyone has ever captured an actual Bigfoot on film or video, but my own experience in amateur recording has caused me to move "shakycam" further down the list on reasons to be skeptical of a purported recording of a cryptid.
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In principle, I agree. Anyone can take a lousy picture or video. I take a lot of lousy pictures.

It's one of those things you need to think of in aggregate. The fact that John Smith took a lousy picture of Bigfoot isn't evidence John Smith is hoaxing. But when it's observed that nobody ever takes a good picture of Bigfoot, well...
 
Ontario, in case we've been too subtle for you in our response to that video, it's a fake. At least two people orchestrated this hoax: the guy in the furry suit and the guy recording the video. It fails on several grounds:
1. It's blurry and shaky like all other Bigfoot videos and films and quite unlike actual moving images of actual wildlife that people like me obtain all the time.
2. What we can discern is a rather amorphous humanoid shape of uniform color and apparently furry. We see no evidence of the face and there's nothing to suggest size any larger than a typical frat boy.
3. The behavior of the subject is incongruous with a highly attuned wood-ninja. It's out in daylight, apparently ripping apart a tree in search of grubs, and blissfully unaware of the guy with the camera who has noisily crunched his way to within probably about 25m. Nothing the subject does - from the obvious feeding sign it leaves, the hairs that would be easily found at such a spot, the creature's cluelessness in broad daylight- jibes with an uncollected animal.
4. The guy with the camera is supposed to be armed, but his reaction is not consistent with that fact.
5. Provenance? This video could have none of the problems I mentioned and it would still be highly suspect due to its murky provenance.

Is that better?
 
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JohnG said:
To be fair, I once recorded a series of drug deals going on near my apartment and thought I was holding the camera phone reasonably steady throughout. When I played it back though the sheer shakycam-ness of it all made it look like I was having a seizure. Needless to say the police didn't find my "evidence" very convincing.

I don't believe that anyone has ever captured an actual Bigfoot on film or video, but my own experience in amateur recording has caused me to move "shakycam" further down the list on reasons to be skeptical of a purported recording of a cryptid.
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Fair enough. But I still find it very odd that the cameraman bolted just before we get to see the supposed footy's face.

Also just to put to bed the idea costumes can't look like the real thing[A real animal that actually exists that is]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhqeG8qrSXI
 
JohnG said:
I don't believe that anyone has ever captured an actual Bigfoot on film or video, but my own experience in amateur recording has caused me to move "shakycam" further down the list on reasons to be skeptical of a purported recording of a cryptid.
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Shaky cam pointed at the ground is a consistent little conceit in these faked up drama footie-sodes.
 
Nay_Sayer said:
Also just to put to bed the idea costumes can't look like the real thing[A real animal that actually exists that is]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhqeG8qrSXI
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Impossible to be a human in a suit! First, there are no zippers one can see. Right there proves it. Next, there is NO WAY a human could be in that suit and not die of heat stroke within a minute or two. If there's anything Bill Munns has taught us, it's this.

(Translation for OntarioSquatch: My above comments on the video Nay_Sayer linked were written in jest. I absolutely believe that the video depicts a human moving around while wearing a rather nice gorilla costume.)
 
Resume said:
Shaky cam pointed at the ground is a consistent little conceit in these faked up drama footie-sodes.
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I agree and to be clear I am skeptical of all the cryptid recordings I've seen to date. In fact one believer on YouTube labeled me as being "mean" for being so skeptical. In fact my "meanness" was directed at the hoaxers, not the believers themselves.

I also agree that the recording in question adheres to most of the typical Bigfoot hoax recordings, aside from the classic "Patty"-style walk.

All I'm saying is that the average person making a recording of what they genuinely believe to be the legendary Bigfoot will likely be awestruck, excited and terrified and those emotions would almost certainly effect their ability to hold the film/video camera steady. So even if the person holding the camera is in on the hoax, they have to pretend they aren't and attempt to mimic the same emotions a non-hoaxer would exhibit in that situation. The fact that the hoaxers are almost invariably lousy actors only adds to the hilarity for us skeptics, but the hoaxers still have to go through the (e)motions, however feebly.
 
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Good thing the photographer ran just as Bigfoot was getting up and turning around, or we might only have found his video camera later in a pile of Bigfoot poop! Oh, wait, Bigfeet don't poop, do they? Or we would already have found the poop itself.
 
JohnG said:
In fact my "meanness" was directed at the hoaxers, not the believers themselves.
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Hoaxers and believers are in a symbiotic relationship. Each of them requires the other. IMO, it is most likely that hoaxers also play the role of being believers. This surely must be the case if a hoaxer publicly presents their own hoax. You cannot present (fake) Bigfoot evidence and simultaneously say that Bigfoot doesn't exist. It doesn't work that way and it isn't done that way. The closest thing to that done by a hoaxer is to say something like, "I don't know what this is." Of course they do that while presenting a giant hairy biped video or a 16" plaster cast knowing full well that the Bigfooters will right away say that it is Bigfoot and welcome the hoaxer to the world of Bigfoot believers.

the classic "Patty"-style walk.
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The classic Patty walk isn't special at all. It's what happens when you wear a costume with 14.5" rubbery feet and walk across sand. The walk is fully human under those circumstances.

The fact that the hoaxers are almost invariably lousy actors only adds to the hilarity for us skeptics, but they have to go through the (e)motions, however feebly.
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That's why the Bigfoot belief game is charming. It's so obvious. I can't help but smile at the quaintness.

This is a modern American myth in action. It must be very fertile for sociologists and voyeurs of culture. Generally, we see only folk myths from days-gone-by. Bigfootery might be a revolt against modern enlightenment and how it destroys beliefs in things that do not exist.
 
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