New antidepressant study refutes link to suicidality

From a personal point of view, I`ve been on 3 different anti- depressants now over a number of years, and I can tell you the effects differ wildly. The one that was pinpointed in this country for causing suicide, a tri-cyclic, can`t remember the name of it now, did have an horrific effect upon me including hallucinations, murderous feelings and an overwhelming urge towards self harm, which eventually led to me burning myself severely up and down my left arm with a cigarette..............something I never would have done previously.
So I do think there is something to this. Obviously- this is all anecdotal, not scientific, but there you are.
Finally I was prescribed fluoxetine (Prozac- the old housewives favourite) which has worked wonders on me, and made me almost human. I suppose in America I would be sueing someone by now, but then again I`d rather they test these drugs on hapless humans like me than monkeys.
Of course, people with a tendancy toward black thoughts and self doubt are much easily triggered to self destruction than the rest of the population, it`s a fine line.
It seems to me sometimes that a dread of death can make you want to kill yourself, paradxically because then you are in control of you own mortality....
Please excuse the rambling nature of this post- now, where`s me pills?

Thanks to a short stint on Wellbutrin, I now understand how someone could get so angry at his fellow motorists that he could commit murder. I was having homocidal thoughts just looking at other drivers on the road and thinking, "What if that guy tried to cut me off?"

Scary. Needless to say, I'm not taking it any more.
 
@ Dancing David:
Well, we're not talking about "one study" here. It's an expert's opinion, as remembered by a student. And, as this guy has at least personal interest in SSRI's, he's not particularly soft in his judgement...

But let's see...

Shelton CI: J Clin Psychiatry. 2004;65 Suppl 17:29-33.
Emslie GJ: et al. Paediatr Drugs. 2005;7(4):203-17.
Whittington CJ: Lancet. 2004 Apr 24;363(9418):1341-5.

Should give you an idea where this is going...
 
First of all, he said that SSRI's don't treat depression (or rather MDD), they merely suppress the feeling of depression
I don't see what the difference is. Depression is that state of feeling depressed. So if someone doesn't feel depressed, has their depression not been treated?
 
@ Dancing David:
Well, we're not talking about "one study" here. It's an expert's opinion, as remembered by a student. And, as this guy has at least personal interest in SSRI's, he's not particularly soft in his judgement...

But let's see...

Shelton CI: J Clin Psychiatry. 2004;65 Suppl 17:29-33.
Emslie GJ: et al. Paediatr Drugs. 2005;7(4):203-17.
Whittington CJ: Lancet. 2004 Apr 24;363(9418):1341-5.

Should give you an idea where this is going...


So it is a personal opion not a scientific study.

That's clarification.
Thanks.

You should know that the word 'expert' has no meaning in this forum, you have to present thier credtial, name and research and practise history. And then we can all decide on the 'expert' status ourselves.
(Appeal to authority)
 
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I don't see what the difference is. Depression is that state of feeling depressed. So if someone doesn't feel depressed, has their depression not been treated?

If you are someone who makes very good money by providing 'therapy' to people who don't need it then you have a major incentive.

Statisticaly most people get the benefit from therapy within eight to twelve weeks. Fred Kanfer at the Uof Illionois promoted this idea rather well, it has encountered great resistance in the 'good insurance' people.
 

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