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Neurocluster Brain Model/Moses and Yogis

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Abstract

Neurocluster Brain Model is the brain model based on neuroscience which demystifies, reveals and explains all religious and occult phenomena.

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…. More detailed description is available at “Official Neurocluster Brain Model site” ….
 
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Wow, your Neurocluster Brain Model sure does try to explain a lot. Have you asked for people to send you their religious and occult phenomena so you can check if indeed your model does demystify and explain everything to anyone's satisfaction or do you have a method to make everything fit so checking would be a waste of time? I bet if you trolled the "reincarnation -- and reliving past lives" sites they could send you some doozies of experienced phenomenon for you to explain. They would love to read about your underlying mechanisms for their perceptions.
 
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Ten Commandments was a result of forty days of starvation induced hallucinations

Medicine has a huge number of documented facts about consequences of long starvation, as for example when a ship sailing the ocean becomes uncontrollable (engine breakdown, etc) and people in the ship are forced into the long starvation, then when such ship is found and rescued, then the people who are still alive and did not die from starvation – all such rescued people will ramble in hallucinatory visions.
Moses starved himself without food and water for forty days and after these forty days of starvation in artificially induced hallucinatory vision Moses received the Ten Commandments from the God (Bible. Exodus 34, 28). The most sacred object in all abrahamic religions – Ten Commandments of God – was the result of hallucinations which were artificially induced by forty days of starvation.
Jesus Christ also starved himself for forty days in the desert and after these forty days of starvation in artificially induced hallucinatory vision Jesus Christ met the Devil instead of the God (Bible. Matthew 4, 2 and Luke 4, 2).
 
You're taking several things for granted here, most notably the existence of Moses and Jesus.
 
neuroclusterbrain said:
Abstract

Neurocluster Brain Model is the brain model based on neuroscience which demystifies, reveals and explains all religious and occult phenomena.

Breach of rule 4 removed. Do not copy and paste material from elsewhere.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles


…. More detailed description is available at “Official Neurocluster Brain Model site” ….
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Will you be providing evidence for this claim? Or any of your others?
 
neuroclusterbrain said:
Medicine has a huge number of documented facts about consequences of long starvation, as for example when a ship sailing the ocean becomes uncontrollable (engine breakdown, etc) and people in the ship are forced into the long starvation, then when such ship is found and rescued, then the people who are still alive and did not die from starvation – all such rescued people will ramble in hallucinatory visions.
Moses starved himself without food and water for forty days and after these forty days of starvation in artificially induced hallucinatory vision Moses received the Ten Commandments from the God (Bible. Exodus 34, 28). The most sacred object in all abrahamic religions – Ten Commandments of God – was the result of hallucinations which were artificially induced by forty days of starvation.
Jesus Christ also starved himself for forty days in the desert and after these forty days of starvation in artificially induced hallucinatory vision Jesus Christ met the Devil instead of the God (Bible. Matthew 4, 2 and Luke 4, 2).
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And your evidence that the Old Testament is not fiction?
 
How about you first provide evidence that either Moses or Jesus actually existed? After that, then we can talk about whether or not they had starvation fueled hallucinations.
 
dafydd said:
And your evidence that the Old Testament is not fiction?
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it might be argued that Israelite shamans, like others, used fasting to induce ecstatic states, and that a cultural memory of this practice has been incorporated into the fictional stories about Moses and Jesus. But that too would need evidence to support it. Is there any?
 
First rule of skepticism - before attempting to explain a phenomena first of all verify it exists. All else is putting the cart before the horse.

PS and welcome to the OP.
 
Wow. Less then a day,and already the OP gets carded for Spam.
Off to a great start at JREF.
 
Craig B said:
But that too would need evidence to support it. Is there any?
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I only consider it important to supply evidence for the unlikely, and your assertion is far more likely than the actual stories promoted by the bible(s).
 
So are you saying that god isn't real, but just a hallucination brought on by starvation? Or is is it that the hallucinations were somehow real and the only way (or perhaps just one of many) for a man to communicate with god, or the devil, (or any supernatural?) is through starvation. And that Jesus needed to starve himself to communicate with God, who is either Jesus' father or God himself manifested as man, depending on your denomination.
 
Leaving aside for the moment that the ten commandments, along with the rest of the Torah, weren't written by Moses, but were rather from documents written after 800 BCE, you should remember that the number 40 has all sorts of mythic associations and is, in fact, formulaic:

In one version of Noah's flood it rained 40 days and nights.

Moses was on Mt. Sinai for 40 days and nights.

Elijah was in the wilderness 40 days and nights.

Jesus was tempted by Satan in the wilderness 40 days and nights

Mohammad was 40 years old when he received his first revelation on Mt. Hira
 
lobosrul said:
So are you saying that god isn't real, but just a hallucination brought on by starvation? Or is is it that the hallucinations were somehow real and the only way (or perhaps just one of many) for a man to communicate with god, or the devil, (or any supernatural?) is through starvation. And that Jesus needed to starve himself to communicate with God, who is either Jesus' father or God himself manifested as man, depending on your denomination.
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The food plays an important role in achieving the heights of the spirituality and for this reason special diets are recommended for religious adepts (such as eastern yogic teaching, etc) which disturb the equilibrium of biochemical reactions inside the brain which greatly helps to induce hallucinations, however the starvation is even more effective technique than special diets. It is important to note that short duration starvation will not carry the man into the “spiritual worlds” because the body will use the accumulated recourses to keep the equilibrium of brain’s biochemical reactions intact, and only long enough starvation will knock out the biochemical equilibrium when some of vital biochemical substances will be depleted.
Almost all spiritual gurus teach that in order to increase spirituality one needs to starve himself, and some spiritual gurus claim that 40 days of starvation without the food and water guarantees the entrance into the “spiritual worlds”. Long starvation disturbs the equilibrium of biochemical reactions inside the brain which result in the blockade of sensory input signals and invokes the dream simulator which carries a man into “spiritual worlds”.
Exactly the same working principle was used by American Indians. Indians had the ritual of initiation into the manhood which was mandatory for all Indian boys in order they become “true men”. The essence of the initiation ritual was the following. Indian boy must climb into the top of the mountain and he must sit there starving without food and without water day after day (which might take weeks) and he must wait until he will see the souls of the ancestors, and these souls of the ancestors must tell him his new manhood name. After the boy has met souls of the ancestors and after he has heard his new manhood name, he must climb down the mountain and tell his Indian tribe his new manhood name, and after that moment the boy becomes “true man”. However not all boys who climb on the top of the mountain meet the souls of the ancestors. Many boys starve themselves into the coma stage however the souls of the ancestors do not come to meet them. For that reason other Indians periodically climb to the mountain to check if the boy still has a consciousness or if he has fallen into the coma stage. If the boy is found in the coma stage, then he is brought back down from the mountain, revived, offered food and water and after some time the same procedure of climbing into the mountain is repeated again. The procedure is repeated the second time, the third time, etc – as many times as needed until the boy finally meets the souls of the ancestors and hears his new manhood name from these souls. Some boys who wanted to avoid this torturing ritual had cheated – after sitting several days on the top of mountain they climbed down and lied that they had met the souls of the ancestors and that these souls had told him his new manhood name. However this lie must had been kept a secret for the rest of the life, otherwise he would get death sentence for cheating in such an “important” ritual.
 
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