Naudet Documentary On Google Video

[ElMondoHummus]

I have one last question but I don't expect to get a response as KreeL seems to have me on ignore, so I'll just put it out there for kicks and giggles: Are you going to run back to the other forum and tell them that you pwned us in this thread too?

http://www.muzzlefree.com/politics-...jref-for-pwning-a-bunch-of-guvtardz-t1789.htm

That is hilarious. He brags about PWNing us, and they all tell him he is FOS.

Oh well Kreel, tweak your method all you want.

TAM

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And now, in all seriousness: Folks, Kreel is basically bragging that it's his hobby to troll this forum. Everyone seriously needs to put him on ignore. He's already not only demonstrated that he doesn't care about comprehending reality, but that he likes shoving his ignorance in people's faces to elicit a reaction. Just go to the above linked forum to see that. People very seriously need to put him on ignore. Just a suggestion for everyone.

 

[Klimax]

I've looked into raises and other awards for the NWO Eastern European Command and it would appear that you're not entitled to any more money. On the bright side, you do appear to be eligible for valuable coupons redeemable at any Hormel meat processing plant worldwide. How lucky for you! Maybe you won't need to travel far?

That may be good for individuals,but current goverment managed to screw what they could. Somebody should explain to them,that installing "right-wing" party which is known for its idiocy is big mistake. They want radar,but to get us party which won't survive next vote of confidence is not guarantee for their plans.

 

[alienentity]

Further note regarding KreeL's claim that Giles Naudet was lying about seeing burnt people, but choosing not to film them.

Here is FDNY testimony about Ladder 10's arrival after the first impact. This scene is exactly what Naudet saw as well. It is irrefutable testimony, and demonstrates again that KreeL and other truthers are completely ignorant of the facts, or are in complete denial of the facts. Whichever it is, they're completely wrong.

'Paul Mallery, Ladder 10: "I hear Lieutenant Gregg Atlas of Engine 10 over the radio that is in the console in the house watch. He said [to dispatch] give me a 1060 and give me every ambulance you got. Those are his exact words. [10-60 is the FDNY code for a Major Emergency such as a building collapse, train wreck, plane crash]

That was the last I heard from Gregg Atlas. I though to myself 1060, that's a pretty good call. I would have said second alarm, but he went 1060."

Here's the FDNY dispatch transcript:

ENGINE 10: Engine 1-0 to Manhattan.

DISPATCHER: Engine 1-0.

ENGINE 10: Engine 1-0 World Trade Center 10-60. Send every available ambulance, everything you've got to the World Trade Center now.

DISPATCHER: 10-4, 10-60 has been transmitted for the World Trade Center, 10-60 for the World Trade Center. Source

Members of Ten House dragged injured people to safety inside the firehouse, suited up, boarded their rigs, and headed out. John Schroeder was aboard the Engine.

The ladder was out first, initially going slowly because of the body parts in on Liberty Street. It then was blocked by a limousine which had stalled in the street. The limousine driver was panicking. A police officer arrived and tried to start the car, to no avail. John Moribito, Ladder 10's chauffeur (driver), had to ram the car to push it out of the way. Meanwhile, someone in ladder 10 radioed the Port Authority police desk to find out which tower the fire was in and was told it was building one. That call took place at 8:50:04 (PAPD WTC Ch. 26 – Radio Channel W log).


A man on fire

Engine and Ladder 10 arrived in front of WTC 1 on West Street at about 8:51. As they were approaching the building, a man walked into the street and fell. His clothes were on fire. Moribito: "...I stopped my rig and positioned it in a way that I would not block him out so that no one coming around me would actually run over him, because they couldn't see him at that point.

That's where the members disembarked off the rig. They all jumped off. I myself jumped off to tend to the gentleman that was in the street. Terry Rivera, who had just gotten off that morning and took the run in with us, ran up to me and he asked me if he should go into the building being that he didn't have a Scott pack on, and I told him to assist me with the gentleman that was in the street."

John Schroeder has expressed surprise (naturally) and perhaps some bewilderment, at what caused the man in the street and others in the north tower lobby to catch fire. From the Badillo article: "We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?' "

Terrence Rivera, who had just gotten off duty and was outside Ten House talking to Schroeder when the north tower was hit, rode to the scene on the back step of Engine 10. He has this to say.:

"As I got off the back -- the back step, there were a few individuals that were civilians that were outside that were burnt. There was a -- he wasn't a regular security guard. He had a weapon on him. I don't know if he was FBI or Secret Service and he was trying to put the pants out on one individual that was conscious. His pants were still smoldering. I took the can, fire extinguisher off the truck and then sprayed down the pants on the person that was still conscious.

At that time, I had asked him where did this individual come from. He told me when the plane had hit, a fire ball had shot down the elevator shaft and had blown people out of the lobby."

[The man was badly burned but survived, per John Moribito audio interview, Appleton, Wisconsin Crescent. September, 2002.]'

http://911stories.googlepages.com/johnschroederofengine10:a911chronology%E2%80%93r

 

[alienentity]

Also note that many truthers are in denial about fireballs shooting into the lobby after the plane impacts, even though there is plenty of eyewitness testimony to that effect.

They even cite William Rodriguez' testimony as 'proof' of bombs in the basement BEFORE plane impact, yet Rodriguez actually corroborates the fireball story if you read his initial statements.

Unfortunately for truthers, they have latched onto some erroneous interpretations and refuse to let go of them, in spite of the glaring contradiction with the actual facts. This severely weakens the credibility of most truther CD arguments - they simply cannot stand up to scrutiny.

 

[beachnut]

Looks like we Czechs are on the conspiracy as well.

Hey,NWO care to send us more money?

You have the beer; send beer; me send money.

 

[KreeL]

There weren't any bodies in the lobby of the north tower. Jules Naudet got there within 3 minutes of the airplane impact. The witnesses speak of the explosion in the sublevels. Get it right for once. Gzus.

 

[Tweeter]

Further note regarding KreeL's claim that Giles Naudet was lying about seeing burnt people, but choosing not to film them.

Here is FDNY testimony about Ladder 10's arrival after the first impact. This scene is exactly what Naudet saw as well. It is irrefutable testimony, and demonstrates again that KreeL and other truthers are completely ignorant of the facts, or are in complete denial of the facts. Whichever it is, they're completely wrong.

'Paul Mallery, Ladder 10: "I hear Lieutenant Gregg Atlas of Engine 10 over the radio that is in the console in the house watch. He said [to dispatch] give me a 1060 and give me every ambulance you got. Those are his exact words. [10-60 is the FDNY code for a Major Emergency such as a building collapse, train wreck, plane crash]

That was the last I heard from Gregg Atlas. I though to myself 1060, that's a pretty good call. I would have said second alarm, but he went 1060."

Here's the FDNY dispatch transcript:

ENGINE 10: Engine 1-0 to Manhattan.

DISPATCHER: Engine 1-0.

ENGINE 10: Engine 1-0 World Trade Center 10-60. Send every available ambulance, everything you've got to the World Trade Center now.

DISPATCHER: 10-4, 10-60 has been transmitted for the World Trade Center, 10-60 for the World Trade Center. Source

Members of Ten House dragged injured people to safety inside the firehouse, suited up, boarded their rigs, and headed out. John Schroeder was aboard the Engine.

The ladder was out first, initially going slowly because of the body parts in on Liberty Street. It then was blocked by a limousine which had stalled in the street. The limousine driver was panicking. A police officer arrived and tried to start the car, to no avail. John Moribito, Ladder 10's chauffeur (driver), had to ram the car to push it out of the way. Meanwhile, someone in ladder 10 radioed the Port Authority police desk to find out which tower the fire was in and was told it was building one. That call took place at 8:50:04 (PAPD WTC Ch. 26 – Radio Channel W log).


A man on fire

Engine and Ladder 10 arrived in front of WTC 1 on West Street at about 8:51. As they were approaching the building, a man walked into the street and fell. His clothes were on fire. Moribito: "...I stopped my rig and positioned it in a way that I would not block him out so that no one coming around me would actually run over him, because they couldn't see him at that point.

That's where the members disembarked off the rig. They all jumped off. I myself jumped off to tend to the gentleman that was in the street. Terry Rivera, who had just gotten off that morning and took the run in with us, ran up to me and he asked me if he should go into the building being that he didn't have a Scott pack on, and I told him to assist me with the gentleman that was in the street."

John Schroeder has expressed surprise (naturally) and perhaps some bewilderment, at what caused the man in the street and others in the north tower lobby to catch fire. From the Badillo article: "We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?' "

Terrence Rivera, who had just gotten off duty and was outside Ten House talking to Schroeder when the north tower was hit, rode to the scene on the back step of Engine 10. He has this to say.:

"As I got off the back -- the back step, there were a few individuals that were civilians that were outside that were burnt. There was a -- he wasn't a regular security guard. He had a weapon on him. I don't know if he was FBI or Secret Service and he was trying to put the pants out on one individual that was conscious. His pants were still smoldering. I took the can, fire extinguisher off the truck and then sprayed down the pants on the person that was still conscious.

At that time, I had asked him where did this individual come from. He told me when the plane had hit, a fire ball had shot down the elevator shaft and had blown people out of the lobby."

[The man was badly burned but survived, per John Moribito audio interview, Appleton, Wisconsin Crescent. September, 2002.]'

http://911stories.googlepages.com/johnschroederofengine10:a911chronology%E2%80%93r

Naudet said he saw a woman that was burnt as he enter4ed the building.

 

[Pardalis]

Naudet said he saw a woman that was burnt as he enter4ed the building.

What difference does that make?

 

[The Big Dog]

Get it right for once. Gzus.

Oh yeah Kreel, great points! Way to "pwns" the "guvtards."

Given all your success drunkenly trolling this forum, I strongly suggest that you take all of your earth shattering evidence directly to the streets!

Do it, Kreel!!

 

[alienentity]

There weren't any bodies in the lobby of the north tower. Jules Naudet got there within 3 minutes of the airplane impact. The witnesses speak of the explosion in the sublevels. Get it right for once. Gzus.

There weren't any bodies in the lobby of the north tower. Jules Naudet got there within 3 minutes of the airplane impact. The witnesses speak of the explosion in the sublevels. Get it right for once. Gzus.

Apparently KreeL, continuing his pattern of ignoring and misinterpreting data, has not noticed that the firemen encountered the scene OUTSIDE the lobby of the North Tower.

Here's just ONE quote KreeL was unable to comprehend:

'Terrence Rivera, who had just gotten off duty and was outside Ten House talking to Schroeder when the north tower was hit, rode to the scene on the back step of Engine 10. He has this to say.:

"As I got off the back -- the back step, there were a few individuals that were civilians that were outside that were burnt. There was a -- he wasn't a regular security guard. He had a weapon on him. I don't know if he was FBI or Secret Service and he was trying to put the pants out on one individual that was conscious. His pants were still smoldering. I took the can, fire extinguisher off the truck and then sprayed down the pants on the person that was still conscious.'

 

[alienentity]

Naudet said he saw a woman that was burnt as he enter4ed the building.

This is consistent with testimony of many eyewitnesses, including (but not limited to) that of the firefighters quoted above.

You will note the phrase 'there were a few individuals that were civilians that were outside that were burnt' does not exclude women, for example.

You cannot correctly infer that there were no women seen. That is not supported by the testimony.

 

[alienentity]

I guess it's just my morning face palm to see KreeL displaying his predictable denial of reality, but it triggered a memory from Monty Python's 'Meaning of Life': The Grim Reaper pays a visit to a dinner party, and tries to explain that the whole group has died and he is going to take them away. They try everything to distract him, to deny the reality (well, so the story goes anyway) of the situation.
He finally loses his patience and shouts 'You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up!'
Someone asks 'How can we all have died at the same time?'
The GR replies 'The Salmon mousse'

KreeL - your lame accusations are long dead, dude! 8 years after 9/11 you're trolling around trying to find something that was never there. A fool's quest if there ever was one.
One thing I can say in your favour - you're well qualified for such a quest.

 

[sleahead]

BTW, one of the pwnd gomers was indeed the mod that happened to be up at 4:30 this morning

Guys, never dabate a man who can't figure out time zones.

 

[johnny karate]

Guys, never dabate a man who can't figure out time zones.

I'm fairly certain there's an erroneous assumption in this statement.

 

[KreeL]

Apparently KreeL, continuing his pattern of ignoring and misinterpreting data, has not noticed that the firemen encountered the scene OUTSIDE the lobby of the North Tower.

Here's just ONE quote KreeL was unable to comprehend:

'Terrence Rivera, who had just gotten off duty and was outside Ten House talking to Schroeder when the north tower was hit, rode to the scene on the back step of Engine 10. He has this to say.:

"As I got off the back -- the back step, there were a few individuals that were civilians that were outside that were burnt. There was a -- he wasn't a regular security guard. He had a weapon on him. I don't know if he was FBI or Secret Service and he was trying to put the pants out on one individual that was conscious. His pants were still smoldering. I took the can, fire extinguisher off the truck and then sprayed down the pants on the person that was still conscious.'

So NOW you are claiming the fireball was OUTSIDE the north tower lobby.

Incredible. Care to change your story anymore?

 

[Justin39640]

So NOW you are claiming the fireball was OUTSIDE the north tower lobby.

Incredible. Care to change your story anymore?

there are a lot of reports of people in and outside getting doused with burning jet fuel
again if you totally researched 9/11 you would have read about it

 

[alienentity]

So NOW you are claiming the fireball was OUTSIDE the north tower lobby.

Incredible. Care to change your story anymore?

LOL.

Two more things you missed (you're a bit slow in comprehension)

There is testimony that people were blown out of the lobby (remember the shattered glass everywhere? That's direct evidence of a large blast)
Shall I repost the phrase again, since apparently BOLD was not enough for you to notice..'I had asked him where did this individual come from. He told me when the plane had hit, a fire ball had shot down the elevator shaft and had blown people out of the lobby."' Hello McFly? Anybody home?

Firefighters testified that there were burnt victims outside when they arrived.

The fireballs were reported to have come from the elevator shafts, but nowhere have I read exactly where they went. Maybe they did make it outside as well.

It was probably all caught on WTC security cameras, and confiscated by the NWO err FBI. Just like at the pentagon. (groan)

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Being both inside and outside of the towers (in the immediate vicinity) was dangerous as far as debris and burning material was concerned. Numerous people at ground level were injured by debris, several people by parts of the aircraft which struck the towers and made it all the way through.

 

[TJM]

So NOW you are claiming the fireball was OUTSIDE the north tower lobby.

Incredible. Care to change your story anymore?

Ingnored: Check.
Misinterpreted: Check.

 

[KreeL]

When Pfeifer and Naudet show up within three minutes there isn't anyone rolling around on the ground outside the lobby. You don't see flaming anything.

Distort reality much?