Re: Re: Regarding the Harping on the 12 Rules
Well he might but again the facts would say he wouldn’t since Kramer knows the history of the Challenge, which you obviously don’t and would rather make wild and frenzied attacks without checking the facts.
If you did bother to check your facts before making your (to date) totally unsubstantiated allegations and what have now been exposed as lies you would have realised that it is a documented fact that several people have been tested under the Challenge agreement. At least one Member off this forum (who was/is a dowser) was tested at the JREF office and his experiences were recorded here and in “Swift†long before this section of the forum was set up. You would also have realised the fact that the money was put on the line for the BBC science documentary programme "Horizon" (I believe it is called Nova in the USA) that tested a homeopathic claim (or rather one of the claims that people were using to say there might be something in homeopathy). These are called facts and they show that your latest allegation and accusations are like all your others – fantasies.
The evidence is there that the challenge is real, that applicants apply and undergo testing, the evidence is also here that you will not allow yourself to be tested and will actively seek ways to avoid being tested in any manner.
You despite many requests never substantiate your allegations and accusations against the JREF or KRAMER.
Perhaps if you spent some of the time you do in making allegations in producing the evidence you stated you would your frenzied and fantastical accusations might be taken seriously. However until such time all the evidence is that you are the liar and that you are the fraud.
Wellfed said:I think what Kramer is saying here is that there are no rules or expectations for JREF to actually live up to, we just pretend the Challenge is real. Or in simpler terms, he might say "The JREF Challenge is a 40 year old farce".
Well he might but again the facts would say he wouldn’t since Kramer knows the history of the Challenge, which you obviously don’t and would rather make wild and frenzied attacks without checking the facts.
If you did bother to check your facts before making your (to date) totally unsubstantiated allegations and what have now been exposed as lies you would have realised that it is a documented fact that several people have been tested under the Challenge agreement. At least one Member off this forum (who was/is a dowser) was tested at the JREF office and his experiences were recorded here and in “Swift†long before this section of the forum was set up. You would also have realised the fact that the money was put on the line for the BBC science documentary programme "Horizon" (I believe it is called Nova in the USA) that tested a homeopathic claim (or rather one of the claims that people were using to say there might be something in homeopathy). These are called facts and they show that your latest allegation and accusations are like all your others – fantasies.
The evidence is there that the challenge is real, that applicants apply and undergo testing, the evidence is also here that you will not allow yourself to be tested and will actively seek ways to avoid being tested in any manner.
You despite many requests never substantiate your allegations and accusations against the JREF or KRAMER.
Perhaps if you spent some of the time you do in making allegations in producing the evidence you stated you would your frenzied and fantastical accusations might be taken seriously. However until such time all the evidence is that you are the liar and that you are the fraud.