My new favorite (loony) politician.

[Alferd_Packer]

Srtacey's at it again.

A Tennessee state senator is refusing to apologize for what many are calling a "tasteless" joke about pressure cookers in his blog in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing.
Republican State Sen. Stacey Campfield posted a photo of a pressure cooker with "Assault Pressure Cooker (APC)" printed below it.
The photo had labels and arrows pointing to all of the pot's "dangerous" features including a "muzzle break thingy that goes 'up'" and a "tactical pistol grip."
It's also described as "large-capacity, can cook for hours without reloading" and the color was "evil, black."
The blog post was titled, "Here comes Feinstein again," an apparent dig at Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.), one of the leading proponents in the battle for gun control. The image implied that pressure cookers might be her next target.

http://gma.yahoo.com/tennessee-sena...oker-joke-172002374--abc-news-topstories.html

 

[jj]

and here I thought PC was a liberal thing

You are welcome to add your own, for sure BP, BAC and others aren't shy. Wait, maybe next time BP, BAC or cicero start one of their hit job threads you can suggest they be fair as well.

No, only "liberals" (a term that includes moderates and Goldwater Republicans like me) have to be fair. Didn't you hear?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

OH NO, no more Stacey

Tennessee state Sen. Stacey Campfield, R-Knoxville, who has made national headlines for backing controversial bills and making statements lampooned by late-night comedians, lost his bid for a second Senate term decisively Thursday.

Campfield, a mainstay at the legislature since being elected to the House in 2004, finished with 5,824 votes, just 28 percent of the overall vote, compared to 13,977 votes, 67 percent, for Richard Briggs, a Knox County commissioner.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...eld-trailing-big-republican-primary/13752991/

Check these out.
10- crazy Stacey moments

we'll miss you Stacey

 

[fuelair]

OH NO, no more Stacey


http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...eld-trailing-big-republican-primary/13752991/

Check these out.
10- crazy Stacey moments

we'll miss you Stacey

I wouldn't, I practice.

 

[Mooseman]

Hard to find another guy like him

 

[Mister Earl]

Hard to find another guy like him

It'd be a lot handier if there were a national gathering of them every so often. Then you wouldn't have to go looking for them.

In a totally absolutely unrelated question, anyone know where the next Republican National Convention's gonna be at?

 

[Foolmewunz]

Hard to find another guy like him

You're missing a smiley.

True, with the current GOP, the local crazies tend to make it to National Crazy status (Cruz, Inhofe, Bachmann, et al) but I'm sure there are more Ralph Shorteys out there. Anyone remember State Sen. (OK) Shortey? He's the guy who introduced the Stacey-esque bill to keep human fetuses out of foodstuffs.

You have to have faith in the American system! There will always be new crazies on the rise. I think that there are a minimum of three FOTLers in the New Hampshire assembly (they'd be the ones who sponsored the bill to legitimize all future state legislation by quoting a portion of the Magna Carta).

 

[The_Animus]

Now his latest brilliant idea, a cap of $600 on lottery winnings for poor people.



http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/new...People-on-Welfare/Crx1rXfwlE6DO3ccL16O4g.cspx

If you're taking welfare from the state, you probably shouldn't be buying lottery tickets. I for one don't support taking other peoples money so you can gamble. Trying to enforce a ban on lottery tickets or other gambling for people on welfare would be impossible but by limiting the possible winnings you remove the incentive to buy them. The 600 limit is probably because smaller winnings are common enough to place a burden on those checKing tickets and paying out winnings at gas stations and the like.


The rest of Stacy's bills are crazy though.

 

[Minoosh]

I for one don't support taking other peoples money so you can gamble.

Welfare recipients who buy government lottery tickets are giving the money right back to the government. It's very efficient, actually.

 

[fuelair]

Be nice if you ever mentioned some of the wackjob politicians on the Left. It's not like the Right has a monopoly on kookiness.

True, but the one's on the right try stuff that really pisses us off aND HAS NO BENEFIT EXCEPT TO SHAME PEOPLE ALREADY HAVING DIFFICULTY -like this POS's examples do.

 

[fuelair]

It'd be a lot handier if there were a national gathering of them every so often. Then you wouldn't have to go looking for them.

In a totally absolutely unrelated question, anyone know where the next Republican National Convention's gonna be at?

Up in Romney's rectum, iirc. Since he wants to win so bad.......

 

[The_Animus]

Welfare recipients who buy government lottery tickets are giving the money right back to the government. It's very efficient, actually.

I assume you are joking, but just in case...

Nothing about this is efficient or responsible. It takes administration overhead to collect the taxes, to determine recipient eligibility, to give them the money, to spend the money at a gas station (which I assume gets a cut for administering the selling), to check for winners, to pay winners (including those other than the welfare recipient), and to collect taxes on those winnings.

The purpose of welfare is to permanently help those who are permanently unable to support themselves (due to disability, etc) or to temporarily help those who are temporarily unable to support themselves (medical issue, job loss, etc).

It's taking money from others so you can gamble, and most of that money is wasted on administration that produces nothing of value and the remainder is paid out to other random people as winnings.

Granted Stacey's other bills range from bad to disgusting but even a broken clock is right twice a day and as far as I can see this is one that actually makes sense. In this thread this bill was originally framed as an attack on the poor, but that seems like a partisan view to me and I'm usually far left of center.

 

[Minoosh]

I assume you are joking, but just in case...

I am not joking. Government lotteries are a form of tax. "A tax on people who can't do math," per one radio wit.

Nothing about this is efficient or responsible. It takes administration overhead to collect the taxes, to determine recipient eligibility, to give them the money, to spend the money at a gas station (which I assume gets a cut for administering the selling), to check for winners, to pay winners (including those other than the welfare recipient), and to collect taxes on those winnings.

That might be an argument against state lotteries, but not against allowing welfare recipients to buy lottery tickets, because I guarantee you, they are paying more in than they will ever collect.

It's taking money from others so you can gamble, and most of that money is wasted on administration that produces nothing of value and the remainder is paid out to other random people as winnings.

No. The remainder is collected by government as a tax. This is why there are state lotteries. To foster false hope and rake in dollar bills.

Why do you think governments sponsor lotteries? Just to be magnanimous?

 

[Minoosh]

Up in Romney's rectum, iirc. Since he wants to win so bad.......

Isn't there already a giant stick up there?

 

[The_Animus]

I am not joking. Government lotteries are a form of tax. "A tax on people who can't do math," per one radio wit. That might be an argument against state lotteries, but not against allowing welfare recipients to buy lottery tickets, because I guarantee you, they are paying more in than they will ever collect.

They aren't paying in anything. They can't pay in what was never theirs from the start. The government already collected taxes, gave it to a welfare recipient who in turn buys lottery tickets and loses and only a fraction of that initial welfare disbursement ends up getting back to the government again.

No. The remainder is collected by government as a tax. This is why there are state lotteries. To foster false hope and rake in dollar bills.

Why do you think governments sponsor lotteries? Just to be magnanimous?

The example given in this thread and which I'm discussing was lottery tickets bought with welfare money. A person who spends their wages on lottery tickets does give the government tax revenue but that's not what is being discussed. A person who spend welfare money on lottery tickets is a net loss in tax revenue because at the end of the series of transactions the gov has less than they started with.

 

[Francesca R]

Government lotteries are a form of tax. "A tax on people who can't do math," per one radio wit.

Yes, although a completely voluntary one.

They aren't paying in anything. They can't pay in what was never theirs from the start.

Welfare payments, once paid, are indeed "theirs".

A person who spend welfare money on lottery tickets is a net loss in tax revenue because at the end of the series of transactions the gov has less than they started with.

But more than if the person never bought the lottery ticket, which was their decision.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Penn Jillette once described the lottery as something with "10 balls that screws Mexicans every week."

 

[fuelair]

Isn't there already a giant stick up there?

 

[Travis]

The real outrage is that welfare people are allowed the luxury of refrigerators. I mean, whatever happened to just throwing things in a cool sack and hoping you don't get food poisoning?

 

[Minoosh]

They aren't paying in anything. They can't pay in what was never theirs from the start. [Emphasis mine]. The government already collected taxes, gave it to a welfare recipient who in turn buys lottery tickets and loses and only a fraction of that initial welfare disbursement ends up getting back to the government again.

If they are a welfare recipient, duly enrolled and collecting a legal benefit, it's their money. What other legal products shouldn't they buy? Bottled water? Chewing gum? Diet soda? Iceberg lettuce? Does anyone really need these things? Should they be compelled to buy only clothes that are used or on sale? Should we dictate where they can set their thermostats?

If people on assistance stopped buying lottery tickets, it would be a net loss for the government.

Plus, do you think the part the government doesn't get back disappears? It circulates. Job creation. We might not agree on basics but here are a couple of articles.


Do lotteries hurt the poor? Well, yes and no
http://news2.sanford.duke.edu/newsletters/dpn/summer00/lottery.html

Personal finance: Lottery mania hurts low-income players
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/dec/05/1205c-personal-finance-lottery-mania-hurts-low/