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My argument against materialism

kenkoskinen said:
...If someone at SMT wants to reach me ... they can find me. I'm asking for evidence for and references from the mainstream physicists on the topic in question. If anyone has it, post it. I don't care if someone belongs to SMT or MIT.
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Ken, the reason people are referring you to the Science Medicine & Technology forum is because you seem to want to discuss physics in detail, and this is the Religion & Philosophy forum, where subjects like physics are only discussed superficially or in passing. SMT is where such topics are dealt with in depth.

When joining internet forums such as JREF, the etiquette is to familiarise yourself with the rules & style of the forums, usually by 'lurking' for some time (i.e. reading without posting), so that you get to know the idioms, idiosyncrasies, and mores before posting, and can decide whether the forum suits you. If you don't like the way this forum operates, there are plenty of others to choose from.
 
punshhh said:
It would be to deny that we are in the metaphorical pea green boat.
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I am familiar with the 'The Owl and the Pussycat', but it's a nonsense poem, and consequently I am at a loss to understand the 'pea green boat' metaphor - do please explain it (assuming it isn't simply nonsense).
 
punshhh said:
Please demonstrate the non-sequitur, how do you know what there is in an unbounded universe. Surely there is a nearly infinite quantity of everything.
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Have you forgotten that unbounded does not mean infinite?
 
Your Theory

QUOTE=PixyMisa;6965754]You seem to be confused.

I don't have a theory. Nothing I am saying here is in the least bit controversial, as you would understand if you simply answered the questions:
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Again, none of the sources say anything about EM being globally repulsive, preventing planets from becoming neutron stars (see your post #1867). I'm not surprised by that. I'd say you're on your own on this therefore it's clearly a new theory. Even a new interpretation of physics has value. I suggest you write the paper and have it peer reviewed. It would be pretty cool if you could add a few stitches to the quilt of physics! Why resist good advice?

Why do you keep dodging these questions? There are very simple, rely on only basic physics knowledge, and can be answered in a matter of seconds.
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Why do you need me to answer your questions? I have already seen a flaw in your theory and there are others. See my first post to Pure Ardent but I'm sure you probably read it. You can get someone else to answer your questions or answer them yourself. Or write a paragraph explaining your theory or thinking if you prefer. I don't get your insistence? Unless this is all some kind of head game. In any case, I'm not playing it.
 
kenkoskinen said:
David, I don't hide. If someone at SMT wants to reach me ... they can find me. I'm asking for evidence for and references from the mainstream physicists on the topic in question.
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In the R&P forum, you might wait a while.
If anyone has it, post it. I don't care if someone belongs to SMT or MIT. Your writing at times is incomprehensible, and often rude.
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And yours is the same, so what? Now will we work on mutual discussion or will you insist that your personal idiom is correct.
Oh well; at times it's good for a laugh but it does get boring. However, I can understand this post. I await your SMT heroes ... send them in, tiger! Meanwhile I'm waiting for the references, oh did I say that again? I really don't think you care how my weekend goes!
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I see your inference about my saying have a nice weekend is interesting, still hoping you enjoy it.
 
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An Unreasonable Post

dlorde said:
Ken, the reason people are referring you to the Science Medicine & Technology forum is because you seem to want to discuss physics in detail, and this is the Religion & Philosophy forum, where subjects like physics are only discussed superficially or in passing. SMT is where such topics are dealt with in depth.
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Who are these people? This is the first note I've seen about being referred to the "Science Med etc. forum & your the only one. dlorde, I'm not the only one who has been discussing physics on this forum. Read the posts, look around ... look in the mirror!

When joining internet forums such as JREF, the etiquette is to familiarise yourself with the rules & style of the forums, usually by 'lurking' for some time (i.e. reading without posting), so that you get to know the idioms, idiosyncrasies, and mores before posting, and can decide whether the forum suits you. If you don't like the way this forum operates, there are plenty of others to choose from.
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The funny thing about that is I did read before I posted. Yes ... people were discussing, amongst other things, physics/cosmology, and in considerable depth. You know this is so ... what's really going on within you? Almost everything in this post is unreasonable. Are you emoting because of your lack of creativity?
 
Dancing David said:
In the R&P forum, you might wait a while.

And yours is the same, so what? Now will we work on mutual discussion or will you insist that your personal idiom is correct.


I see your inference about my saying have a nice weekend is interesting, still hoping you enjoy it.
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"All we need is love. Love is all we need!"
 
kenkoskinen said:
Again, none of the sources say anything about EM being globally repulsive, preventing planets from becoming neutron stars (see your post #1867).
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Yeah, they do. You just haven't bothered to read them. This is highlighted by the questions I keep asking you, which you keep dodging.

Why do you need me to answer your questions?
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I don't need you to answer my questions. You need you to answer my questions. You're lost.

So here they are again, as a public service:

What force is it that you think makes water incompressible?

What force is it that you think binds the atoms in water molecules together?

What force is it that you think generates the phenomenon known as surface tension?

And what force is it that you think counteracts gravity and prevents planets from collapsing under their own weight?

Just to help you out, there are only four forces, so the answer in each case has to be one of gravity, electromagnetic, weak, or nuclear.
 
kenkoskinen said:
Who are these people?
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Several actual working physicists, for a start.

This is the first note I've seen about being referred to the "Science Med etc. forum & your the only one. dlorde, I'm not the only one who has been discussing physics on this forum. Read the posts, look around ... look in the mirror!
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This subforum is Religion and Philosophy. If you want a good scientific discussion, this isn't really the place. Indeed, this really isn't the place.
 
kenkoskinen said:
Again, none of the sources say anything about EM being globally repulsive, preventing planets from becoming neutron stars (see your post #1867). I'm not surprised by that. I'd say you're on your own on this therefore it's clearly a new theory. Even a new interpretation of physics has value. I suggest you write the paper and have it peer reviewed. It would be pretty cool if you could add a few stitches to the quilt of physics! Why resist good advice?



Why do you need me to answer your questions? I have already seen a flaw in your theory and there are others. See my first post to Pure Ardent but I'm sure you probably read it. You can get someone else to answer your questions or answer them yourself. Or write a paragraph explaining your theory or thinking if you prefer. I don't get your insistence? Unless this is all some kind of head game. In any case, I'm not playing it.
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We will take it that you are incapable of answering the questions. Why do woos never answer questions,it seems to be a universal trait amongst that fraternity.
 
Foolish Insistence!

PixyMisa said:
Yeah, they do. You just haven't bothered to read them. This is highlighted by the questions I keep asking you, which you keep dodging.
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I did read them and they don't contain your theory or your thinking. Again, see your own posts. There's not even a whisper of your theory in these sources.


I don't need you to answer my questions. You need you to answer my questions. You're lost.
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Verbal Bunk ... why do you keep insisting that I answer your questions? They are your questions ... answer them yourself. You're wasting your time.

I don't think you'll ever write a paper on your interpretation/theory and get it reviewed because you don't want to look like a fool!
 
Woos & Boos

dafydd said:
We will take it that you are incapable of answering the questions. Why do woos never answer questions,it seems to be a universal trait amongst that fraternity.
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Why don't you answer her questions, and put her out of her misery? Why does it have to be me?

I still haven't seen your link to your music channel. What do you have to hide?

I hope you get over your obsession with my website. Maybe you surfed there more than once and lost your 5 minutes?

If there are woos, there must be boos. It's clear which one you are!
 
kenkoskinen said:
I did read them and they don't contain your theory or your thinking. Again, see your own posts. There's not even a whisper of your theory in these sources.
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As I've pointed out, I'm not presenting a theory. Perhaps that's why you couldn't find it?

Verbal Bunk ... why do you keep insisting that I answer your questions? They are your questions ... answer them yourself. You're wasting your time.
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Yes, it's becoming increasingly clear that I'm wasting my time, but I am nothing if not patient.

So try, tri, triantiwonti... Sorry, wrong poem.

What force is it that you think makes water incompressible?

What force is it that you think binds the atoms in water molecules together?

What force is it that you think generates the phenomenon known as surface tension?

And what force is it that you think counteracts gravity and prevents planets from collapsing under their own weight?
 
kenkoskinen said:
Why don't you answer her questions, and put her out of her misery? Why does it have to be me?
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Because dafydd knows the answers. And I know dafydd knows the answers. And dafydd knows I know he knows the answers. And I know dafydd knows

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Sorry. But you get the idea, I hope. There's no need.
 
PixyMisa said:
Because dafydd knows the answers. And I know dafydd knows the answers. And dafydd knows I know he knows the answers. And I know dafydd knows

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Sorry. But you get the idea, I hope. There's no need.
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I agree ... there's no need to continue this BS. I'm okay with that. I hope you agree it's a waste of time.
 
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