Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Geert Wilders

[Philip]

Can you define which of the two are the victim here: Wilders or Feiz Muhammad? They both seem to be hateful instigators here, so I'm trying to figure out which one you're claiming irony about so that I can figure out whether we agree or disagree.

Has Wilders called for anyone's murder?

I watched Fitna and all it does is show verses of the Koran that call for violence, actual Islamic clerics calling for violence, and scenes of Islamic violence. It concludes by saying that Muslims should reject this violence.

What's wrong with pointing out the truth?

 

[GreNME]

Has Wilders called for anyone's murder?

Not that I'm aware. Just plain, unadulterated hate. So, apparently it's only bad when one is specific instead of generalizing toward a whole group. Good to know.

I watched Fitna and all it does is show verses of the Koran that call for violence, actual Islamic clerics calling for violence, and scenes of Islamic violence. It concludes by saying that Muslims should reject this violence.

What's wrong with pointing out the truth?

Yes, because I'm sure that's completely representative of the planet's nearly 2 billion Muslims.

 

[ddt]

Has Wilders called for anyone's murder?

No. It's about the only thing he hasn't said.

I watched Fitna and all it does is show verses of the Koran that call for violence, actual Islamic clerics calling for violence, and scenes of Islamic violence. It concludes by saying that Muslims should reject this violence.

What's wrong with pointing out the truth?

If it were the truth. The film claims to be about Muslims in the Netherlands. It shows flawed demographics about estimated numbers of Muslims in the Netherlands, it shows Islamic clerics anywhere but in Holland calling for violence. It shows pictures of an extreme celebration of the Day of Ashura which is a Shi'ite day while nearly all the Muslims in the Netherlands are Sunni. it shows flawed translations of Quran verses. And it concludes with saying that Muslims should tear out these verses from the Quran. Not much truth in there. Oh, and he breached copyright of, e.g., the Danish turban-with-a-bomb cartoon. Are you sure you saw the same film?

 

[tsig]

Muslims need to learn not to want violence every time someone says something they don't like.

But Wilders is still a fascist, racist pig.

I'm fairly sure he's still human.

 

[tsig]

Not that I'm aware. Just plain, unadulterated hate. So, apparently it's only bad when one is specific instead of generalizing toward a whole group. Good to know.



Yes, because I'm sure that's completely representative of the planet's nearly 2 billion Muslims.

So you know what they think?

 

[Bill Thompson]

Wait. Do you think that Islam is NOT violent? How do you figure?

 

[SezMe]

Wait. Do you think that Islam is NOT violent? How do you figure?

Wait. Do you think that Christianity is NOT violent? How do you figure?
Wait. Do you think that Hinduism is NOT violent? How do you figure?
Wait. Do you think that Atheism is NOT violent? How do you figure?
Wait. Do you think that Communism is NOT violent? How do you figure?
Wait. Do you think that Capitalism is NOT violent? How do you figure?

.......

Ok, you get the point.

 

[GreNME]

So you know what they think?

"They" who? I'm not the one calling nearly 2 billion people on the planet violent.