Musk vs Trump

Which one will the MAGA supporters try to assassinate first?

  • Trump

    Votes: 5 17.9%
  • Musk

    Votes: 23 82.1%

  • Total voters
    28
Musk finds deep state! Kash Patel and other Trump cabinet secretaries already in charge of it. But it was under their noses.NEXT: Musk to release code name and photo for all CIA field agents.
 
If provable secret CIA agent info gets released, Muskrat might just suffer a seriously fatal accident he wasn't expecting.
Sounds a bit tinfoil-hatty to me.

More likely that absolutely nothing will happen to him and instead someone much lower down the food chain will be found and blamed.

Musk is untouchable while the GOP are supine and he enjoys Trump's patronage.
 
Sounds a bit tinfoil-hatty to me.

More likely that absolutely nothing will happen to him and instead someone much lower down the food chain will be found and blamed.

Musk is untouchable while the GOP are supine and he enjoys Trump's patronage.
Is it really tin-foil-hattery in these days of utter ridiculousness? I'm going to imagine many FBI field agents would rather not have their lives, and their families' lives, put at risk over some loud-mouthed illegal immigrant blabbing stuff he shouldn't to people he shouldn't. Same goes, perhaps even more so, for Bongino. The FBI was formed to root out crime and subversion inside the USA. So when it turns out that the crime and subversion is coming from inside the organisation and from it's "boss", thousands of dedicated FBI employees might take it upon themselves to do their job properly...
 
Repeating: Muskrat fails to understand that firing someone is not easily reversible. Once fired, they are out, gone, goodbye. At that moment, they join the massive and growing crowd of unemployed people looking for a job somewhere else, possibly in another more sane country. There is no such thing as "a letter rescinding the firing". That's a fiction, a fantasy, a flim-flam.
 
Repeating: Muskrat fails to understand that firing someone is not easily reversible. Once fired, they are out, gone, goodbye. At that moment, they join the massive and growing crowd of unemployed people looking for a job somewhere else, possibly in another more sane country. There is no such thing as "a letter rescinding the firing". That's a fiction, a fantasy, a flim-flam.
And even if they did come back, they now have zero trust in the security of their jobs. Why on earth would they? It would be like trusting a dog that's already mauled you once. Anyone who comes back is definitely looking elsewhere, and possibly committing sabotage.
 
And even if they did come back, they now have zero trust in the security of their jobs. Why on earth would they? It would be like trusting a dog that's already mauled you once. Anyone who comes back is definitely looking elsewhere, and possibly committing sabotage.
This is something Elon Musk clearly doesn't understand about people working in classified contexts. It's really important to keep those people happy with their jobs, because you're giving them responsibility and information that's vital to everyone's survival, not just the commercial success of a company. In short, you want to make them blackmail-proof and bribe-proof. You definitely don't want to give them reasons to start doubting their loyalty to the United States.
 
Muak thinks he can just replace workers like toner cartridges - but the Amazon model of worker retention doesn't do so well when it comes to jobs that require intensive vetting and institutional knowledge.

It's the standard stupid-but-sucessful guy belief that if they don't understand what someone does, it must be easy or unnecessary.
 
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Muak thinks he can just replace workers like toner cartridges - but the Amazon model of worker retention doesn't do so well when it comes to jobs that require intensive vetting and institutional knowledge.

It's the standard stupid-but-sucessful guy belief that if they don't understand what someone does, it must be easy or unnecessary.
Perhaps because he's never had to deal with the consequences of losing a valued employee. The people he interacts with directly are like himself, B-Ark passenger, easily replaceable with another MBA or vulture capitalist. When he sacks competent people en-masse it's people much lower on the organisation chart who have to pick up the pieces.
 
Muak thinks he can just replace workers like toner cartridges - but the Amazon model of worker retention doesn't do so well when it comes to jobs that require intensive vetting and institutional knowledge.
Elon Musk seems to have retconned what happened at Twitter to be some brilliant success on his part. He fired two-thirds of the employees, including all those whose jobs he didn't understand or agree with irrespective of whether they were essential to the outcome he wanted. The system fell apart, and was restored only by undoing Musk's mistakes and bringing back the people he stupidly didn't realize he needed.

Now if your system can tolerate failure, that's not an indefensible way to work. In my business, when we're workshopping something, we'll often pare things back to the breaking point and then rebuild them. That's because we need to know (with evidence) where that breaking point lies and what the failure modes are, so that we can then rationally build out a proper operational margin. Then with that process and knowledge in place, we'll put it into production and monitor it continually to test the assumptions.

To blow up something that's in production and rebuild it while its dependents stand there and wait is irresponsible. If you have a dentist appointment and you show up to find the office in shambles because the dentist decided he wanted to fire everyone, rip out all the equipment, and build it back up to a minimally sustainable form, you might be tempted to applaud the dentist's commitment to efficiency and you might be forced to face the evidence of newfound efficiency measured days or weeks hence. But that doesn't change the fact that you aren't going to get your teeth fixed that day, and that by a very tangible metric your dentist has failed miserably at his primary task.

The problem with the Twitter story is that Musk has swept all that former chaos under the rug. It didn't happen. In Musk's mind, he came in and fixed a bloated and inefficient system, and he's brilliant for having done so. And now he wants to do the same thing with the federal government (which has a low tolerance for systemic failure). The difference here, however, could be that Musk's goal is to break the federal government in a way that's not easily seen as breakage, and make way for Project 2525 goons.

Perhaps because he's never had to deal with the consequences of losing a valued employee. The people he interacts with directly are like himself, B-Ark passenger, easily replaceable with another MBA or vulture capitalist. When he sacks competent people en-masse it's people much lower on the organisation chart who have to pick up the pieces.
And as I've mentioned before, the companies Elon Musk nominally leads have groups of ablative-layer employees whose job is to keep Musk busy with triviality or irrelevancy in order to keep him from meddling too directly in the important operations of the company. They are his "liaisons" to the company. Musk already admitted that he doesn't connect with the day-to-day operations of any of his companies and relies on other people to actually run them. They need him as the semi-deluded figurehead because it brings them money and attention. But they don't actually want him running things, and when he tries to, the evidence inevitably reveals that he messes them up.
 
Well, Elon finally put his foot in it; he tried to move in on turf that the Department and Agency heads considered their own, and he got kickback.
It's a turf fight, pure and simple. And Musk apparently lost.
 
Musk explores Medicaid and Medicare. Hospice care patients all die! Money completely wasted!
It's been proven that everybody who uses Medicaid eventually dies. Even those who are still alive will live for, at most, a few more decades. It's a complete waste of money.
 
MAGA dude: Musk is just slashing waste and corruption-
How much has DOGE saved? Not much.
How much does the government spend on "this"?
Well, it is public information:

agencies tab there
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example
Bill Clinton reduced waste and corruption and the size of gevenrent, but did so slowly, with a scaple instead of a meatax.
And he used attrition to eliminate jobs so very few were actully fired.
Caompare that to the mess going on now.
Exactly the toxic reasoning I would expect from a patently sociopathic tech-bro.
His treating people around him like dirt while having huge plans for humainty in general is nothing new.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mrs-Jellyby
And this is why the transhuman crap the new breed of tech bros believes in is so scary. it is about creating a small group of immortal, superhumans
which will make the rest of humanity obsolete. Scary stuff.
 
His treating people around him like dirt while having huge plans for humainty in general is nothing new.
The tech bro outlook for a technocratic utopia is (in my opinion) simply another exercise in solving half the problem for half the people and then declaring universal victory. It's the same shell game they play with technology. The people who don't fit the half-baked utopian model are deemed pesky outliers who aren't worth saving. The reason society and government is hard when done right is that it's based on the principle that all people have inherent worth. This isn't how Elon Musk thinks.

And this is why the transhuman crap the new breed of tech bros believes in is so scary. it is about creating a small group of immortal, superhumans
which will make the rest of humanity obsolete. Scary stuff.
As I've written before, I'm counting on his half-assed approach to backfire and Darwin the world free of this plan.
 
As I've written before, I'm counting on his half-assed approach to backfire and Darwin the world free of this plan.
He needs to put his money where his mouth is and get a Neuralink implanted in his own head.

Then, I give him 2 months before he's no longer human in a fatal way. ;)
 

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