Mueller Investigation pt5

[CapelDodger]

Schiff says that if Mueller's report is not made public Congress will subpoena Mueller to testify and subpoena the report itself

I would expect no less. It will all come out very quickly, and efforts by Trump to prevent it will simply make matters worse.

The best scenarion for Trump is that the Mueller investigation goes on beyond Nov 2020.

 

[CapelDodger]

Utter desperation mode? Utter disconnect from reality?

What next? Trying to claim his Atlantic City casinos never went bankrupt?

The sole basis for saying they did go bankrupt is the Steele Dossier, which was paid for by Clinton and the DNC.

 

[CapelDodger]

Misdirection.

Displacement behaviour. When the bad thoughts come, repeat "DNC Server" while blinking alternate eyes until they go away.

 

[Drysdale]

Hardly. This is what we call pure desperation. Keep pointing to others. The massive amount of evidence of conspiracy between Trump's campaign and Russia is there if one simply opens their eyes. But whatever TBD. I don't expect you to do that.

I'll bite, what exactly is this evidence and where is it?
Be specific please.

 

[CapelDodger]

I'll bite, what exactly is this evidence and where is it?
Be specific please.

The Trump Tower meeting. Specifically, the meeting in the New York Trump Tower, not meetings about the Moscow Trump Tower, and more specifically the email chain about said meeting in which dirt on Clinton was promised, explicitly attributed to the Russian government's programme of assistance to the Trump campaign.


What's your problem with that? Specifically? Please answer without reference to the Steele Dossier or the DNC Server.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

I'll bite, what exactly is this evidence and where is it?
Be specific please.

It is evidence of improper contacts that were then lied about that were then covered up that investigations into have faced extraordinary attempts to interfere with and intimidate.

You know, the kind of thing you expect to happen when a casual, but honest, mistake happens, right?

This evidence is located in courtrooms of various federal and state jurisdictions and attested to by many of the people involved who are now serving time for their crimes or in the process of receiving judgment to that effect.

Are we really going to do the "no really, I just woke up from a coma and have no clue what's going on around here" routine?

 

[jond]

The Trump Tower meeting. Specifically, the meeting in the New York Trump Tower, not meetings about the Moscow Trump Tower, and more specifically the email chain about said meeting in which dirt on Clinton was promised, explicitly attributed to the Russian government's programme of assistance to the Trump campaign.


What's your problem with that? Specifically? Please answer without reference to the Steele Dossier or the DNC Server.

Don’t forget Manafort providing polling data to A Russian operative and also offering unlimited access to the campaign.

 

[CapelDodger]

It is evidence of improper contacts that were then lied about that were then covered up that investigations into have faced extraordinary attempts to interfere with and intimidate.

A peculiar thing about the New York Trump Tower meeting is the way the email chain leading up to it was released and acknowledged by the Trump team without any struggle at all. Lies about the meeting followed, of course, but the email chain remains right there in the clear light of day. Has this ever been explained?

 

[CapelDodger]

@jond

Don’t forget Manafort providing polling data to A Russian operative and also offering unlimited access to the campaign.

I won't, but I'm being specific about the evidence, as requested by Drysdale, and the New York Trump Tower meeting provides a high-proof distillation of it.

 

[CapelDodger]

IAre we really going to do the "no really, I just woke up from a coma and have no clue what's going on around here" routine?

Let's just wait and see what we do get. For all we know it might be something original.

 

[slyjoe]

Displacement behaviour. When the bad thoughts come, repeat "DNC Server" while blinking alternate eyes until they go away.

Trump still doesn't understand they DID get the server.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Trump still doesn't understand they DID get the server.

I think he doesn't care. As long as his idiot followers keep up with their poutrage about it, he'll keep repeating it.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Trump still doesn't understand they DID get the server the whole DNC/Hillary/computer/emails issue.

He is utterly ignorant of the whole subject and belligerently determined to stay so. He has "people" who play with computers for him. Meanwhile, he continues to tweet US global policy (as such) from an insecure iPhone despite repeated warnings it is unsafe.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Klayman was dismissed years ago. The heroes at Judicial Watch have been yeoman work demanding governmental transparancy

Speaking of transparency, aren't you curious about what's under all that black ink in the Mueller documents that we've seen so far?

 

[quadraginta]

To start:

Prosecutors say Manafort lied to:
-tax preparers
-bookkeepers
-banks
-Treasury Department
-National Security Division of DOJ
-FBI
-Special Counsel’s Office
-grand jury
-his own legal counsel
-Members of Congress
-executive branch of US government​

He loves committing crimes.

Process crimes?

 

[quadraginta]

Sigh...

Senate does investigation, finds no collusion
Schiff is gearing up to do an investigation,
Schiff writes an editorial about the Russia investigation and claims that his republican colleagues totally agree with him in private and should come out and support his investigation, which would be totally unnecessary if Mueller found evidence of collusion, which know he has not yet done

Sigh - a few corrections and comments

Republican dominated and controlled Senate Intelligence Committee does investigation, finds no ["direct evidence of"] collusion. (well forgive me if that colours me surprised)

<snip>​

I have added, in boldface, the part of that statement about the Senate investigation which TBD seems to consistently leave out.

I'm sure it is completely inadvertent.

(Direct evidence being much harder to come by when it is so studiously avoided.)​

 

[applecorped]

Mmmmm......eggs

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Process crimes?

they are all in the process of committing crimes right up until the moment they are send to jail.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Feb 22
Highly respected Senator Richard Burr, head of Senate Intelligence, said, after interviewing over 200 witnesses and studying over 2 million pages of documents, “WE HAVE FOUND NO COLLUSION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA.” The Witch Hunt, so bad for our Country, must end!

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Feb 22
Highly respected Senator Richard Burr, head of Senate Intelligence, said, after interviewing over 200 witnesses and studying over 2 million pages of documents, “WE HAVE FOUND NO COLLUSION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA.” The Witch Hunt, so bad for our Country, must end!

It is noteworthy that Trump has managed to establish the narrative that Burr said "no collusion" ; as far as I know, Burr actually said "no direct link".

But at this point, the lie has been repeated so often that no one questions it.