Mueller Investigation pt4

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The Big Dog said:
according the FBI agent who actually interviewed him, there was no crime.

Until McCabe and that other jackal got involved and doctored the 304's.

Justice for Flynn!

/ And given that the estimated sentencing range is zero to six months, I trust that our hero Mueller is not going to make this a total dog and pony show.
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Amazing how your interpretation of what's a crime depends not on reality but on the political afiliation of the accused.
 
“Deputy Director McCabe acknowledged that ‘the two people who interviewed [Flynn] didn’t think he was lying.'"

Hmm, seems like The Big Dog was right and the Leftists are... wrong.

Who doctored the 304's??

Justice for Flynn!
 
The Big Dog said:
“Deputy Director McCabe acknowledged that ‘the two people who interviewed [Flynn] didn’t think he was lying.'"

Hmm, seems like The Big Dog was right and the Leftists are... wrong.
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Do you often struggle this much with the English language?
 
The Big Dog said:
“Deputy Director McCabe acknowledged that ‘the two people who interviewed [Flynn] didn’t think he was lying.'"

Hmm, seems like The Big Dog was right and the Leftists are... wrong.

Who doctored the 304's??

Justice for Flynn!
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Weird, you should tell him that you know more than he does:

General Flynn pleaded guilty in December to lying to the FBI about his contact with Russian officials and agreed to cooperate with the federal investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
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Seems like the Big Dog is lying, and everyone else that disagrees (no matter their political affiliation) are right.

I would think being wrong with such consistency would be tiring.

ETA: I highlighted the relevant portion that explains exactly why you're wrong. If you need help parsing the English language please let me know. I can help explain why that's important.

Thinking something isn't true, and proving something isn't true aren't the same thing. You're welcome, glad I could help teach an old dog a new trick
 
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plague311 said:
LoL shocking that you support a pardon.
Also, no one should believe anything from the House. Everything they did was either half-assed or lied about by Nunez. It should all be dismissed until it can be done again with legitimacy. Even invoking it as part of an argument is evidence that you have absolutely nothing to support an already dying narrative that anyone charged by Mueller didn't deserve what they have coming to them.
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This is the guy who led the cheer 'lock her up' during the Republican Convention. So no, I don't believe leniency is called for. General Mike Flynn sold out his country to the Russians.
 
The Big Dog said:
well, it is really hard to guess what one should find relevant given that it is just a substance free link to a twitter thread about a report that HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED yet and what it means or may not mean, :rolleyes:
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Because people who are intelligent, well read and politically savvy (things you have no idea about) might have a fairly good idea what is coming.

You think Seth Abramson cannot be allowed to speculate on what might be in an upcoming report because he hasn't actually read it, yet you think we should all swallow whole, Jerome Corsi's absurd claim that he worked out, all by himself, that Wikileaks was in possession of John Podesta's emails before anyone else in the world knew.

Adorable. Fantastic even...

Hooboy
 
Segnosaur said:
You mean the committee that is both headed by a republican, and which contains a majority of republicans, who just happen to be members of the same party as Trump.

That's a good start...


Uhhh... so?

Most obvious response to this is that Flynn was just good at lying. That doesn't necessarily mean that 1) he was actually telling the truth, and 2) that there isn't evidence that he was lying outside of things like body language.

From: https://thehill.com/policy/national...omey-mccabe-testified-that-the-two-agents-who
The report notes that Comey testified that “the agents … discerned no physical indications of deception. They didn’t see any change in posture, in tone, in inflection, in eye contact. They saw nothing that indicated to them that he knew he was lying to them.” McCabe also then confirmed this to the Intelligence Committee, according to the report, but added that they’d found Flynn’s statements were “inconsistent” with what they had understood to be his conversations with Kislyak.
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OK, so Flynn is a practised liar...Next?
 
smartcooky said:
Because people who are intelligent, well read and politically savvy (things you have no idea about) might have a fairly good idea what is coming.

You think Seth Abramson cannot be allowed to speculate on what might be in an upcoming report because he hasn't actually read it, yet you think we should all swallow whole, Jerome Corsi's absurd claim that he worked out, all by himself, that Wikileaks was in possession of John Podesta's emails before anyone else in the world knew.

Adorable. Fantastic even...

Hooboy
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He also correctly guessed that there wouldn't be a single dump (which would be the most obvious answer) but that there would be multiple dumps, and approximately the days of those events. That just so happened to line with the actual dumps.
 
Interesting viewpoint here:

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...at-he-came-down-too-hard-on-flynn-says-former

Officials have accused Flynn of attempting to create a back channel for communications between Russia and Trump.

"Many people say there's nothing wrong with him having those backchannel communications. He was the incoming national security adviser," Moreno said. "Of course not being truthful to the FBI is what he's being charged with."
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And just another hinky "lying" to the FBI claim.

Who wrote the 304s?
 
looks at post...

looks at original post...

Sees the word "viewpoint" prominently, scans original post for the word "fact."

Shakes my damn head at post.

Oh well folks, looks like grifters gonna grift....
 
Roger Stone is pleading the 5th. That says A LOT.

ETA: Trump on pleading the Fifth:

The mob takes the 5th
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If you're innocent why are you taking the 5th Amendment?
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When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment so they're not prosecuted, I think it's disgraceful.
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Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment. Horrible
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Yeah, pleading the Fifth is never a good look in a case like this.
The fifth amendment has always been problematical;it's a constitutional right to keep somebody from being forced to confess by coercion,..at least that is what the founding fathers had in mind....but you can't keep people from assuming,,and often rightly...that if you are innocence why even take the fifth?
ANyway, pleading it won't keep Stone from being indicted.
And ,of course, Trumpy's statements on the fifth are guaranteed to break many Irony meters.
 
dudalb said:
Yeah, pleading the Fifth is never a good look in a case like this.
The fifth amendment has always been problematical;it's a constitutional right to keep somebody from being forced to confess by coercion,..at least that is what the founding fathers had in mind....but you can't keep people from assuming,,and often rightly...that if you are innocence why even take the fifth?
ANyway, pleading it won't keep Stone from being indicted.
And ,of course, Trumpy's statements on the fifth are guaranteed to break many Irony meters.
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It's clear Stone is betting on getting a pardon from Trump. Something Trump has not been very subtle about in his tweets. Only idiots can't connect the dots here.
 
dudalb said:
Yeah, pleading the Fifth is never a good look in a case like this.
The fifth amendment has always been problematical;it's a constitutional right to keep somebody from being forced to confess by coercion,..at least that is what the founding fathers had in mind....but you can't keep people from assuming,,and often rightly...that if you are innocence why even take the fifth?
ANyway, pleading it won't keep Stone from being indicted.
And ,of course, Trumpy's statements on the fifth are guaranteed to break many Irony meters.
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I don't think Stone has much else he can do. I'd bet money that Trump will issue a pardon for both Manafort and Stone soon thinking he can get away with the backlash.
 
The Big Dog said:
Keep in mind also when considering the Report that there is evidence that actual scumbos McCabe and Strzok falsified the 304s for the Flynn interview.
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1. Is the evidence sufficient to conclude that they falsified the 302s?

2. What is that evidence?
 
acbytesla said:
I don't think Stone has much else he can do. I'd bet money that Trump will issue a pardon for both Manafort and Stone soon thinking he can get away with the backlash.
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Problem is that I suspect everything they know will come out no matter what Trump does.
FOr the record, every political commentator, liberal or conservative, has stated that issuing a pardon for Manafort and Stone would be the worst thing Trump could do. He might keep that hard core base but would lose everybody else,including some of the "I don't like him but will support him because is a Republican" Republicans.
 
dudalb said:
Problem is that I suspect everything they know will come out no matter what Trump does.
FOr the record, every political commentator, liberal or conservative, has stated that issuing a pardon for Manafort and Stone would be the worst thing Trump could do. He might keep that hard core base but would lose everybody else,including some of the "I don't like him but will support him because is a Republican" Republicans.
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I agree. But that won't stop Trump. He keeps painting Manafort as a choir boy and saying just how terrible what they are doing to him. Never mind that the charges Manafort was convicted of are serious crimes. But I guess lying to banks and creditors to get millions in financing or tax evasion are petty.

Trump figures there will be a storm associated with the pardons, but he thinks he can weather it.

No, a pardon is certainly coming. Manafort is depending on it or he's never going to see daylight again. Because they are certainly going to sentence him to 20 years plus.
 
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