Mueller Investigation pt4

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carlitos said:
Well, it was nice while it lasted.

Given that this bizarre behavior is being exhibited by someone who used to do skeptical debunking in the 9/11 truth sub-forum I really worry.

Substance abuse is a pretty obvious reason for this kind of emotional ill health. In theory, it could even be a brain tumor.

I just hope that they get the help that they need.

But I’m out — posting here when it’s like this just doesn’t bring me joy. I’m going to do the forum Eurovision music thing and stay in community where the trolling mostly doesn’t disrupt the conversation.
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There has been a noticeable change in the past two years re posts on Trump. Started out supporting Trump but fairly rational. Recently could be the return of logger. Concern is warranted.
 
Golly, I guess it was wrong to quote Mueller's statement destroying the buzzfeed report then?

Hoo boy.....
 
The Big Dog said:
:jaw-dropp

"BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate," said Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller's office, in a statement.
The Resistance: "'tis but a scratch"
King TBD: A scratch? Your arm's off!!
TR: "Just a flesh wound"
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Steve said:
Well you have not quoted such a statement so you could not have been wrong.
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'k.
 
acbytesla said:
I've gone back and forth on this. It really depends on the evidence. There is a level of criminality that not only points to the need, but requires impeachment, even if the Republicans refuse to remove Trump from office.

This ISN'T Bill Clinton lying about a blowjob in a deposition. This is potentially POTUS conspiring with a foreign power, probably America's number 1 adversary the last 70 years to rig a US election and then covering it up by firing law enforcement and instructing people to lie to Congress.
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Then I would hope that the House would not make it a prolonged affair. I don't see how this can happen while Mueller's report is still pending, unless impeachment is based on information already in the public domain.

I'm afraid a long investigation and prolonged hearings would be counterproductive.

But then I know nothing about political strategy.
 
Minoosh said:
Then I would hope that the House would not make it a prolonged affair. I don't see how this can happen while Mueller's report is still pending, unless impeachment is based on information already in the public domain.

I'm afraid a long investigation and prolonged hearings would be counterproductive.

But then I know nothing about political strategy.
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Im hoping it is after Mueller or another prosecutor presents the evidence. Then I hope they start calling witnesses and present that picture to the country.
 
Steve said:
There has been a noticeable change in the past two years re posts on Trump. Started out supporting Trump but fairly rational. Recently could be the return of logger. Concern is warranted.
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I'm a broken record on this, but I have seen very little support for Trump lately, as opposed to snark aimed at "leftists," Dems and liberals.

ETA: Anecdotally, my once Trump-supporting seems ready to switch from Republican to independent. He would still be conservative, but Trump's downside is almost as big as his backside.
 
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Classy move by Trump this morning, expressing his appreciation for Mueller stomping out the dumpster fire that was the buzzfeed report.
 
The Big Dog said:
Classy move by Trump this morning, expressing his appreciation for Mueller stomping out the dumpster fire that was the buzzfeed report.
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Classy? You just described something our lying undemocratic, criminal racist POS President did as 'classy. This is Trump we're talking about. Sorry, that's an oxymoron.
 
Well, regardless of all this, I think we all know what one of the questions will be when the House has Cohen testifying before them next month (that is, if Dear Leader hasn't taken out a hit on him).

"Mr Cohen. Did anyone instruct or direct you to lie last time you testified before Congress, and if so, who?"

The only uncertainty is, who will ask the question. Maybe we should run a pool on that...

My pick would be Jerry Nadler (but I'd love for AOC to ask that question).
 
Story behind the Buzzfeed story.

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The [Buzzfeed] reporter informed Mueller’s spokesman ... “story coming stating that Michael Cohen was directed by President Trump himself to lie to Congress about his negotiations related to the Trump Moscow project,” according to copies of their emails provided by a BuzzFeed spokesman. Importantly, the reporter made no reference to the special counsel’s office specifically or evidence that Mueller’s investigators had uncovered.

“We’ll decline to comment,” Carr responded
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The innocuous exchange belied the chaos it would produce. When BuzzFeed published the story hours later, it far exceeded Carr’s initial impression, people familiar with the matter said, in that the reporting alleged that Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer and self-described fixer, “told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie,” and that Mueller’s office learned of the directive “through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents.
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varwoche said:
Story behind the Buzzfeed story.
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Interesting...

"Told of the special counsel’s failure to find support for the story, Mittenthal, the BuzzFeed spokesman, said, “Our high-level law enforcement sources, who have helped corroborate months of accurate reporting on the Trump Tower Moscow deal and its aftermath, have told us otherwise. We look forward to further clarification from the Special Counsel in the near future.”

“We stand by our reporting and the sources who informed it, and we urge the Special Counsel to make clear what he’s disputing,” BuzzFeed editor Ben Smith said in response to the special counsel's statement."​

... BuzzFeed are sticking to their guns.
 
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