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I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it's conceivable that enough can come out that the Republicans will stop seeing Trump as a benefit and will turn on him. While it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking "the Senate is Republican, therefore it will unquestioningly support Trump on everything", that's not necessarily true. For example, they don't like the White House's position on Khashoggi

If the Republicans see themselves as being harmed by association with Trump, they'll drop him. The only question is whether it's possible for Mueller to collect and make public the right information in the right way to make that situation a reality.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it's conceivable that enough can come out that the Republicans will stop seeing Trump as a benefit and will turn on him. While it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking "the Senate is Republican, therefore it will unquestioningly support Trump on everything", that's not necessarily true. For example, they don't like the White House's position on Khashoggi

If the Republicans see themselves as being harmed by association with Trump, they'll drop him. The only question is whether it's possible for Mueller to collect and make public the right information in the right way to make that situation a reality.
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Sure the issue is about republican voters. Will this cost him the republican base that still loves him? Nixon lost half that with the saturday night massacre and Bush II lost it through incompetence and blowing up the economy. Can mere felonies from Trump get him to lose it when the conservative media has been saying all along that this is a deep state conspiracy? If it actually hurts his poll number more than putting kids in cages did then we might get something but I don't see why this kind of behavior would suddenly start bothering republicans.
 
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So during the summer of 2016, Trump tried to cut a business deal with Russia while publicly attacking NATO and praising Putin, asking Russia to hack his opponent's emails, and while his son and senior staffers met in secret with Russian government intermediaries.


Sometimes this stuff just isn't that complicated.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
@matthewamiller
So during the summer of 2016, Trump tried to cut a business deal with Russia while publicly attacking NATO and praising Putin, asking Russia to hack his opponent's emails, and while his son and senior staffers met in secret with Russian government intermediaries.


Sometimes this stuff just isn't that complicated.
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The only thing you are missing is actual evidence linking the two.
 
BobTheCoward said:
He has incredibly low poll numbers given the economy. He got trounced in the midterms because of it. His agenda last year was weakened by his numbers and it is dead legislatively.
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And yet no one's moved against him despite his terrible track record and criminal behaviour. Seems like he's pretty much teflon Don at this point. 2020 will tell us more.
 
Belz... said:
And yet no one's moved against him despite his terrible track record and criminal behaviour. Seems like he's pretty much teflon Don at this point. 2020 will tell us more.
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Exactly his poll numbers have been stable with his track record. His supporters still support him and so the republican base still supports him. While that is true mere crimes are not going to matter.
 
Belz... said:
And yet no one's moved against him despite his terrible track record and criminal behaviour. Seems like he's pretty much teflon Don at this point. 2020 will tell us more.
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He has had politically devastating things happen to him. That was the bar dudalb set.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it's conceivable that enough can come out that the Republicans will stop seeing Trump as a benefit and will turn on him. While it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking "the Senate is Republican, therefore it will unquestioningly support Trump on everything", that's not necessarily true. For example, they don't like the White House's position on Khashoggi
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Republicans in congress may claim they don't like what Trump is doing, but that does not mean that they 1) don't approve of his actions in private, or 2) care enough to actually act against him.

Even such notable critics as Flake ended up voting along party lines for various Trump nominees, as well as for things like the tax bill. If he were really turning on Trump, he'd actually tell the rest of the republicans "I ain't doing nothin' to advance the Republican agenda until Stubby McBonespurs is evicted".
 
Segnosaur said:
Republicans in congress may claim they don't like what Trump is doing, but that does not mean that they 1) don't approve of his actions in private, or 2) care enough to actually act against him.

Even such notable critics as Flake ended up voting along party lines for various Trump nominees, as well as for things like the tax bill. If he were really turning on Trump, he'd actually tell the rest of the republicans "I ain't doing nothin' to advance the Republican agenda until Stubby McBonespurs is evicted".
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Cracks may be showing as we speak.

Fate of controversial Trump judicial pick in doubt
 
Belz... said:
Yes, I see I'll have to explain the English language:

Since we have to wait two years to assess if there was any actual political damage to Trump, we cannot say that he was damaged so far.

I'm sure you'll find a way to disagree, since you always do.
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He was damaged politically three weeks ago. D+40 seriously hurts his political power.
 
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