Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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Stacko said:
You'd like to think that a man found to have designed laws to disenfranchise African American voters with surgical precision would have been enough but not with today's GOP.
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Stop reciting why he got the nomination in the first place. We all know how qualified he is as a republican nominee.
 
LSSBB said:
Republicans in congress may claim they don't like what Trump is doing, but that does not mean that they 1) don't approve of his actions in private, or 2) care enough to actually act against him.

Even such notable critics as Flake ended up voting along party lines for various Trump nominees, as well as for things like the tax bill.
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Cracks may be showing as we speak.

Fate of controversial Trump judicial pick in doubt
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So, ONE judicial nominee (for a lower court position for which the Republicans had blocked Obama's nominees), who had engaged in extremely blatant (and possibly illegal) voter suppression efforts still gets the support of at least 90% of senate republicans. (And this is the same party that approved Drunky McRapeface to the Supreme court.)

I don't think that counts as a 'crack'. More of a scuff mark.
 
Stacko said:
You'd like to think that a man found to have designed laws to disenfranchise African American voters with surgical precision would have been enough but not with today's GOP.
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Is there any evidence that he has animosity towards African Americans? He did the best job for his clients. When Republicans complained about Guantanamo defense attorneys, liberals got up in arms about the importance of legal representation.
 
Segnosaur said:
So, ONE judicial nominee (for a lower court position for which the Republicans had blocked Obama's nominees), who had engaged in extremely blatant (and possibly illegal) voter suppression efforts still gets the support of at least 90% of senate republicans. (And this is the same party that approved Drunky McRapeface to the Supreme court.)

I don't think that counts as a 'crack'. More of a scuff mark.
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Personally I think it's just a trick of the light.
 
dudalb said:
I disagree.
I think the political damage to Trump with a pardon for Manafort will be devastating, regarless of what happens in the court.
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The old idea of political damage required people to have the ability to perceive wrong doing and feel shame and remorse, since Trump can feel neither he is immune from the type of damage say a Clinton or a Bush would perceive.
 
Put away the popcorn: Trump’s Recall of Moscow Deal Matches Cohen’s, President’s Lawyers Say.

Well that was fun for a couple of hours.

Go figure Cohen would go testify under oath without getting his facts straight first.
 
The Big Dog said:
Put away the popcorn: Trump’s Recall of Moscow Deal Matches Cohen’s, President’s Lawyers Say.

Well that was fun for a couple of hours.

Go figure Cohen would go testify under oath without getting his facts straight first.
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Trump's recall and Trump's campaign statements differ widely then.
 
A helpful guide, recently updated:
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has charged 32 people, including 26 Russian nationals, in his ongoing probe of possible Russian influence in the 2016 presidential election. Others have been charged in related cases that originated with Mueller’s probe, but were pursued by different prosecutors. Here’s what we know about the charges and who is involved.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...imeline/?utm_term=.8e0d7e6fa73a&noredirect=on
 
dudalb said:
You mean the Dems taking the House is not a massive setback for Trump???
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If he really had a political agenda sure. But it does nothing about holding him accountable. Until his republicans actually care about these crimes it won't do anything. But really why should republicans start abandoning him now?
 
The Big Dog said:
Put away the popcorn: Trump’s Recall of Moscow Deal Matches Cohen’s, President’s Lawyers Say.

Well that was fun for a couple of hours.

Go figure Cohen would go testify under oath without getting his facts straight first.
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I'm sure it does... now
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I'm
If there wasn't such an agreement in writing, ethics and common sense would strongly imply one existed for any competent lawyer.
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Hold up. You can’t bring charges against someone for violating what ethics and common sense implied.

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because if you could President Trump would be behind bars serving a life sentence.

But seriously, as previous posters have noted, if Mueller put that clause in other people’s plea agreements and didn’t put it in Manafort’s it was either a rookie mistake or the linchpin of a bold strategy.

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and as for Ken White’s observation that “but it’s not how real federal prosecutors work,” Mueller is walking through uncharted territory. That might not how federal prosecutors work with normal cases with normal clients, but if you are investigating a pathological liar -strike that, let’s say a habitual liar - who lies so much that he can’t keep his story straight about relatively unimportant things, then offering a honey pot is a low-risk gamble. If Team Trump doesn’t take the bait and use the leaked information to determine what kind of lies to use on the written questions, then nothing is lost. But if they do, then Mueller has more ammo to use.
 
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Stacyhs said:
You might find this interesting:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-checking-donald-trumps-claims-about-Mueller/

Trump is telling a half-truth which is an improvement for him.
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If you call Hillary a Clinton and a crook, that would be half true too.

This paragraph is worth noting:
We’ll also note that in the jurisdictions in which the Mueller lawyers live -- primarily the District of Columbia, Maryland and New York -- the Democrats are the dominant party, meaning that many races are effectively decided in Democratic primaries rather than in the general election.
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As is the point Trump also gave thousands to candidate Clinton in her earlier race.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Since his daughter has just been found to have committed the same "crimes", you'd have thought he'd have eased up a little on the "lock her up" rhetoric.
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Evidence?


(That Trump would ever act according to the evidence, not that Ivanka used a private email server for gov business.)
 
The Big Dog said:
Put away the popcorn: Trump’s Recall of Moscow Deal Matches Cohen’s, President’s Lawyers Say.

Well that was fun for a couple of hours.

Go figure Cohen would go testify under oath without getting his facts straight first.
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Nah, this is definitely a popcorn night. More to come though so keep buying kernels in bulk.
 
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