Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

[Fast Eddie B]

I think it’s worth mentioning that even if Trump pardons Manafort, he can’t give him back the time already spent incarcerated, supposedly in some form of solitary. At 69, Manafort’s time left on this planet is more a finite quantity than it might seem to a younger man. He’s already spent months in jail, so any thoughts of him getting away Scot free are already in the rear view mirror.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I think it’s worth mentioning that even if Trump pardons Manafort, he can’t give him back the time already spent incarcerated, supposedly in some form of solitary. At 69, Manafort’s time left on this planet is more a finite quantity than it might seem to a younger man. He’s already spent months in jail, so any thoughts of him getting away Scot free are already in the rear view mirror.

he also has lost most of his possessions, most of which he probably bought with other people's money.
Freedom might not be a safe state for him to be in.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

This is an interesting theory: it's being argued that Manafort was serving as a mole for Trump, and that is what Mueller wanted in order to trap both Manafort and Trump

Anyone know a decent Oral surgeon?`

My jaw dropped to the floor and needs re-attaching.

 

[varwoche]

The dots are being connected. The specifics of Trump's conspiracy with a hostile, foreign power to influence the election are becoming more and more clear by the day.

Trump--> Stone--> Corsi--> Assange --> Russia, with orchestration from Manafort.

The funny(?) part is that Stone -- one of the sleaziest human beings known to man -- buffered himself by utilizing a unicorn who might actually be sleazier than Stone! Like, that's even possible? It defies Occam.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

While the disgusting Fake News is doing everything within their power not to report it that way, at least 3 major players are intimating that the Angry Mueller Gang of Dems is viciously telling witnesses to lie about facts & they will get relief. This is our Joseph McCarthy Era!

 

[Steve]

Trump Tweets

While the disgusting Fake News is doing everything within their power not to report it that way, at least 3 major players are intimating that the Angry Mueller Gang of Dems is viciously telling witnesses to lie about facts & they will get relief. This is our Joseph McCarthy Era!

Trump did not write this.

 

[Ladewig]

Trump did not write this.

Agreed

 

[LSSBB]

Trump did not write this.

"Wife, what's a good word for saying, while not actually saying?"

"Intimating, my Lord."

"Thank you. You may have another diamond ring."

 

[dasmiller]

"Wife, what's a good word for saying, while not actually saying?"

"Intimating, my Lord."

"Thank you. You may have another diamond ring."

He's learned. A topaz ring got him "covfefe"

 

[acbytesla]

I think it’s worth mentioning that even if Trump pardons Manafort, he can’t give him back the time already spent incarcerated, supposedly in some form of solitary. At 69, Manafort’s time left on this planet is more a finite quantity than it might seem to a younger man. He’s already spent months in jail, so any thoughts of him getting away Scot free are already in the rear view mirror.

Manafort's legal problems would still continue. He can easily be convicted of committing bank fraud in New York, Illinois and Virginia. I'm pretty sure he can also be convicted of tax evasion in New York State.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

To paraphrase another forum member:

Pardoning Manafort (or anyone else connected to the Russia investigation) would be like Trump pooping on the floor.

But by the time we all get over the shock of seeing Trump do that and try to formulate a response, he will have moved on to raping the dog.

....and we'll forget all about that whole poop on the floor incident.

I hope for your sake the term “floor-pooping dog raper” is not against forum rules.

 

[Segnosaur]

Manafort's legal problems would still continue. He can easily be convicted of committing bank fraud in New York, Illinois and Virginia. I'm pretty sure he can also be convicted of tax evasion in New York State.

He may also be liable for tax fraud in Virginia, since filing a fraudulent state tax return is considered a separate crime from filing a false federal return.

 

[Segnosaur]

Re: The risk of pardoning Manafort...

You touched on this, but I think that it's worth emphasizing. A big problem is that... despite the noise they're making, it's actually not clear that it would be catastrophic for Trump, politically. More like, he'll lose a couple approval rating percentage points for a week, and then it will be swept away by 5 other things and it will be back to business as usual.

And not only that, the Republicans in congress will continue to support him regardless of whatever he does. So there's no real risk of removal from office via impeachment.

 

[crescent]

This is an interesting theory: it's being argued that Manafort was serving as a mole for Trump, and that is what Mueller wanted in order to trap both Manafort and Trump

Seems like Giuliani has confirmed that theory:

Manafort’s Lawyer Said to Brief Trump Attorneys on What He Told Mueller

A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations.

Rudolph W. Giuliani, one of the president’s personal lawyers, acknowledged the arrangement on Tuesday and defended it as a source of valuable insights into the special counsel’s inquiry and where it was headed. Such information could help shape a legal defense strategy, and it also appeared to give Mr. Trump and his legal advisers ammunition in their public relations campaign against Mr. Mueller’s office.

For example, Mr. Giuliani said, Mr. Manafort’s lawyer Kevin M. Downing told him that prosecutors hammered away at whether the president knew about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting where Russians promised to deliver damaging information on Hillary Clinton to his eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. The president has long denied knowing about the meeting in advance. “He wants Manafort to incriminate Trump,” Mr. Giuliani declared of Mr. Mueller.

 

[The Big Dog]

Ahh. Remember when Hillary tweeted all the time and ranted about witch hunts and the corrupt system when the GOP/FBI were investigating her about Benghazi and then e-mails?



Neither do it.
I guess innocent people do things differently than Trump does.

Hillary Clinton could not make herself a glass of iced tea, she had to email someone to email someone else to bring it to her, soooo: really terrible comparison.

 

[Imhotep]

Hillary Clinton could not make herself a glass of iced tea, she had to email someone to email someone else to bring it to her, soooo: really terrible comparison.

Is comparing tweeting to making iced tea a better comparison than comparing tweeting to emailing?

 

[Segnosaur]

Ahh. Remember when Hillary tweeted all the time and ranted about witch hunts and the corrupt system when the GOP/FBI were investigating her about Benghazi and then e-mails?

Neither do it.
I guess innocent people do things differently than Trump does.

Hillary Clinton could not make herself a glass of iced tea, she had to email someone to email someone else to bring it to her, soooo: really terrible comparison.

Not really sure about what your particular claim (Clinton can't make ice tea) has to do with the earlier posting.

The earlier posting referred specifically to an individual's reactions when under investigation. Clinton was investigated, she remained calm and did not rant endlessly on Twitter about her accusers and suggest they should be locked up. (And ultimately the Benghazi investigation resulted in... nothing. Nada, zip ziltch.)

Now we have Trump under investigation, and he rants endlessly about "witch hunts". If Clinton was relatively silent on Twitter about Benghazi and she was cleared, then why doesn't Trump follow the same lead and remain silent on Twitter about the Russian investigation?

 

[The Big Dog]

Is comparing tweeting to making iced tea a better comparison than comparing tweeting to emailing?

No, there are dozens of other examples that I could have pointed to that showed that Hillary was technologically incompetent, that was one I always thought was pretty hilarious tho.

Hillary emails Huma to tell her to email another human to bring her an iced tea because Hillary could not figure out how to email the other person or, ya know, get up and make it herself.

Good times.

 

[Belz...]

Hillary Clinton could not make herself a glass of iced tea, she had to email someone to email someone else to bring it to her, soooo: really terrible comparison.

HDS is really strange.

 

[fagin]

I've heard of grasping at straws but....

Seriously.