Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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Minoosh said:
He said the investigation is illegal, but it's difficult to parse what he meant by the quote you cited.

The main thing is he thinks Jeff Sessions shouldn't have recused himself.

What's in it for Sessions now to even stay in the job? I suppose it's the loyal thing to do, but I can't believe he thinks Trump deserves that loyalty. Maybe he would see resigning as harmful for the GOP. It's been said it would be too much to try to get Kavanaugh confirmed at the same time Trump is looking for votes to confirm an AG.

Once an AG is in place, does the special counsel get fired?
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I don't like Sessions but I think he's starting in the job because he cares about the Constitution. In this regard, i like him.
 
acbytesla said:
I don't think Sessions is trying to be loyal to the President, but to his idea of the rule of law. I can't stand Sessions and his politics, but I do think he believes he is doing right for the country.
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Right.
 
acbytesla said:
Yes it is. VERY DISHONEST. It's corrupt as hell.

Charity Navigator lists the Clinton Foundation as a “low concern” charity, with a four-star rating, its highest rating. The Clinton Foundation currently has a score of 93.91 out of 100 for finances, accountability and transparency....

There is NO EVIDENCE at all that the Clinton Foundation is a scam. But nice try.
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The question is, why is Joe ignoring the evidence in favor of some crap he's hearing from the alt-right echo-chamber?

Because this accusation and factcheck refuting it is nothing new.
 
acbytesla said:
I don't think Sessions is trying to be loyal to the President, but to his idea of the rule of law. I can't stand Sessions and his politics, but I do think he believes he is doing right for the country.
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And that is where you need to return to. People are eulogising not only McCain but his values.

Both are great foils to the scoundrel leading the country now.
 
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Minoosh said:
What's in it for Sessions now to even stay in the job? I suppose it's the loyal thing to do, but I can't believe he thinks Trump deserves that loyalty. Maybe he would see resigning as harmful for the GOP. It's been said it would be too much to try to get Kavanaugh confirmed at the same time Trump is looking for votes to confirm an AG.

Once an AG is in place, does the special counsel get fired?
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I won't pretend to know what Sessions is thinking, but removing him would be step 1 towards removing Mueller. It's possible Sessions have enough decency to want to help protect Mueller by remaining at his post as long as possible.
 
Oystein said:
None of that addresses the big fat lie that you had served us, the crassly false allegation that the Clinton Foundation used only 3% of its 2014 revenues for charity.

I had fully expected that you'd admit you stand corrected.
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2014 Clinton Foundation IRS Return:
https://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2014/311/580/2014-311580204-0c3ee98d-9.pdf

2014 revenue: $177.8 million
2014 charitable grant spending: $5.16 million

That's about 3% of revenue. It's closer to 6% of spending, if that makes you feel better.
 
I'm not even sure what the point of a charity is if all it does is pass the money on to other charities, minus admin fees. Aren't people better off donating straight to the charities themselves?
 
acbytesla said:
Again, that is because the Clinton Foundation isn't a pass through for other charities, it does the work themselves.
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I keep hearing this, but the only "work" I can really track down is that they go to lots of conferences. What exactly did they do? What are their actual achievements?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I'm not even sure what the point of a charity is if all it does is pass the money on to other charities, minus admin fees. Aren't people better off donating straight to the charities themselves?
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A charity that does solely fundraising to distribute funds to other charities may simply be better at raising money if that's their primary focus. A given charity may be better off trying to get bunch of money from a couple large foundations rather than trying to raise a lot of money from a lot of smaller donations.

If you know of a charity you personally like, yeah you are better off donating directly to them. But if you're not sure exactly where you want your money to go, but know a general cause, you may be better off giving to a larger foundation that could have a better idea of where money should go to.

Let's say I support getting people as many purple pogo sticks as possible. My local purple pogo stick charity does a really good job of getting purple pogo sticks to people in need. If I'm concerned primarily with the people around me, then that's great donate to them. But if I'm concerned with the wider pogo stick availability, maybe I would get more bang for my buck elsewhere. If there's an International Purple Pogo Stick Foundation that can look at all the local pogo stick charities, and say an extra $1 here will be able to get 3 purple pogo sticks to people because that will help them get a larger truck to more easily deliver pogo sticks, but an extra $1 there only will only get 1 pogo stick to people because they already have a big truck. My money can be better spent by giving it to the IPPSF than my local charity even if the IPPSF takes 5 cents of every dollar.

That all assumes, of course, a well run foundation that does a good job at allocating funds.
 
Ziggurat said:
I keep hearing this, but the only "work" I can really track down is that they go to lots of conferences. What exactly did they do? What are their actual achievements?
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FactCheck.org: Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go?

Considering all of the organizations affiliated with the Clinton Foundation, he said, CharityWatch concluded about 89 percent of its budget is spent on programs. That’s the amount it spent on charity in 2013, he said.

We looked at the consolidated financial statements (see page 4) and calculated that in 2013, 88.3 percent of spending was designated as going toward program services — $196.6 million out of $222.6 million in reported expenses.
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