Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

[phiwum]

The media seems to love Mueller now that he is investigating the Trump campaign. But they weren't too happy with him when his shoddy Anthrax investigation was being used as a reason to start the Iraq war.

https://www.wired.com/2011/03/did-the-anthrax-attacks-kickstart-the-iraq-war/

Then as we know the Iraqi strains did not end up matching the strain in the Anthrax letters, so they started investigating scientists.

https://www.wired.com/2011/03/ff_anthrax_fbi/

Do give evidence of how the media "loves" Mueller (in their news articles, not opinion pieces) rather than reports on news of Mueller. Similarly, do the same for showing that they weren't happy with him previously, rather than that they were reporting the news of the day.

 

[phiwum]

It's derailed? I've been finding that random attacks out of the blue from our right wingers here are a pretty good sign of impending news. Mueller's been up to something this Halloween, and its got the Trumpers spooked.

Nonsense. Our local right wingers know nothing more than you or me.

 

[sackett]

Let's suppose that Mueller really is a ruthless, shameless, throat-grabbing scoundrel who'll do anything, no matter how savagely unjust, to destroy his chosen victim.

Wonderful! Just the guy I want to go after Napoleon Bonespurs, his coterie, his family, his party, and his little dog too!

 

[phiwum]

I don't think we should assume that Baylor is accurately representing Rolfe's views on anything. Perhaps he is, but I don't yet see any evidence suggesting that this is actually the case.

Fine point.

 

[jimbob]

This Surefire thing is getting funnier by the minute. Apparently a bunch of the company's employees' social media accounts use models or foreign actors for their personal photos.

From the thread I posted, another person tweeted this to it:

https://twitter.com/JaneMayerNYer/status/1057371849439502338

Not all the people there are models:

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Odd. Jacob Wohl says he doesn't know nuttin' about Surefire Intelligence, the firm tied to the bizarre Mueller allegations. Take a look at the photos below of Mathhew Cohen, head of 'Surefire,' and of Jacob Wohl.

1:41 PM - 30 Oct 2018

He actually seems too dim to use a photo of *himself* that is not already in the public domain.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Just wait til we get to the anthrax case.

Who picked Mueller for this job?

 

[Slings and Arrows]

"The woman to whom we allegedly offered payment--Lorraine Parsons--does not exist. The allegations are an outright joke. This entire backstory is a hoax designed to distract the nation from my press conference on Thursday, which is where all eyes need to be."

-- Jack Burkman (Oct 31, 2018)


"In less than 24 hours, Mueller’s victims will begin telling their stories."

-- Jacob Wohl (Oct 31, 2018)

"The more I read about this Mueller Rape Case business, the more convinced I am that this is a Democrat dirty trick to pull a 'reverse Kavanaugh,' trying to impugn Republicans for paying women to make up false rape claims against Mueller. Just more BS from team DNC."

-- Bill Mitchell (Oct 31, 2018)

 

[kookbreaker]

"The more I read about this Mueller Rape Case business, the more convinced I am that this is a Democrat dirty trick to pull a 'reverse Kavanaugh,' trying to impugn Republicans for paying women to make up false rape claims against Mueller. Just more BS from team DNC."

-- Bill Mitchell (Oct 31, 2018)

“Bill Mitchell must be a complete idiot.”

-kookbreaker (October 31, 2018)

 

[Belz...]

"The more I read about this Mueller Rape Case business, the more convinced I am that this is a Democrat dirty trick to pull a 'reverse Kavanaugh,' trying to impugn Republicans for paying women to make up false rape claims against Mueller. Just more BS from team DNC."

-- Bill Mitchell (Oct 31, 2018)

I really do wonder how you come across this sort of stuff. I'd like to see your Twitter feed.

In any case, we know the accusation was made up, but it wasn't by a Democrat. It wouldn't even make any sense. Nice try.

 

[Dr. Keith]

"The more I read about this Mueller Rape Case business, the more convinced I am that this is a Democrat dirty trick to pull a 'reverse Kavanaugh,' trying to impugn Republicans for paying women to make up false rape claims against Mueller. Just more BS from team DNC."

-- Bill Mitchell (Oct 31, 2018)

Wohl and Burkman are Dems? How precious.

 

[Babbylonian]

Who picked Mueller for this job?

RINOs.

 

[Aridas]

Nonsense. Our local right wingers know nothing more than you or me.

Some of the ones inciting them may, though.

"The more I read about this Mueller Rape Case business, the more convinced I am that this is a Democrat dirty trick to pull a 'reverse Kavanaugh,' trying to impugn Republicans for paying women to make up false rape claims against Mueller. Just more BS from team DNC."

-- Bill Mitchell (Oct 31, 2018)

Ahh, the joys of throwing away the obvious conclusions supported by the evidence in favor of conspiracy theories not supported by evidence.

 

[The_Animus]

"The more I read about this Mueller Rape Case business, the more convinced I am that this is a Democrat dirty trick to pull a 'reverse Kavanaugh,' trying to impugn Republicans for paying women to make up false rape claims against Mueller. Just more BS from team DNC."

-- Bill Mitchell (Oct 31, 2018)

Many people are saying it's actually a Republican dirty trick made to look like a Democrat dirty trick to impugn Republicans for paying women to make up false rape claims against Mueller. Just more BS from team GOP

Who knew deflection could be so easy. Just claim anything bad Republicans do is secretly a Democrat trick. No evidence needed and it covers literally anything!

So for all future S and A posts that claim something negative about democrats just reply saying it's just another Republican dirty trick.

 

[Dr. Keith]

RINOs.

Need to get rid of those.

Like many Republicans, Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, did not believe a special counsel was necessary, but he praised Mueller as the right choice if there is going to be one.

"I think former Director Mueller is a great choice," Smith said. "He has served in both Republican and Democratic administrations, he has a reputation for integrity, and I think he'll be well-received."

 

[I Am The Scum]

Slings and Arrows believes that "Russian Bot" is a job title that one can apply for.

 

[Belz...]

Maybe he did, too.

 

[Rolfe]

This is interesting as it puts Rolf's book Adequately explained by Stupidty into the limelight https://www.amazon.com/Adequately-Explained-Stupidity-Morag-Kerr/dp/1783062509

Not sure if it's been brought up but Mueller was Assistant Attorney General in charge of the investigation of the Lockerbie bombing. I haven't looked too deeply into the Lockerbie investigation but I know Mueller was accused of faking evidence in order to convict an innocent person. I haven't read Rolfe's book so I don't know what her opinion is on Mueller but by all accounts, the man is a liar and a fraud and shouldn't be trusted.

I don't like Mueller, because he's one of a group of American law enforcement types who were involved with the Lockerbie case and who insist loudly and often rudely that they know they got the right guy and they won't even listen to the points the "conspiracy theorists" are putting forward. (Richard Marquise, Vincent Cannistraro, Brian Murtagh and Frank Duggan are other luminaries of the genre.) But beyond knowing that he was involved in the US side of the investigation I don't know much about him.

He's not one of the names that I've heard referred to in the context of possible fabrication of evidence. Tom Thurman and Jack Christie usually take that dubious accolade. Mueller is a lawyer, not a cop or a forensics officer, so I wouldn't have thought he would be involved hands-on in faking evidence.

 

[Ambrosia]

You still don't understand? How about a photo of Mueller presenting fake evidence in the Lockerbie investigation.

[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/6FNFLr6.png[/qimg]

OK.

So waaaay back in ye distante paste there were threads about the Lockerbie investigation on this very forum (technically the JREF forum back then) and I was one of the main contributors to them along with Rolfe and some others.

I spent a long time looking at Lockerbie a few years back, and should you be so inclined to read those threads they are still here on the forums. It's a *very* long read. Lockerbie is a very complex topic.

Basically though. you're wrong.

There is no proof *none* that evidence in the Lockerbie investigation was planted.
Sure we can prove that Megrahi was innocent and the bomb was introduced at Heathrow, a lot of that is down to Rolfes work building on what we discussed in the Lockerbie threads at JREF. There isn't enough evidence to prove much else though.

It wasn't Mueller running the show back then either. If you are looking for a smoking gun to demonstrate Mueller to be a bad person, Lockerbie isn't it.

Put up your evidence. I've spent a few years studying Lockerbie and know the subject very well. Although please use a new thread to do so, Lockerbie is a derail for this one.

ETA: Ninja'd !

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I wonder if the Trumpista everywhere are getting their marching orders to bring up Lockerbie to discredit Mueller.

 

[smartcooky]

I don't like Mueller, because he's one of a group of American law enforcement types who were involved with the Lockerbie case and who insist loudly and often rudely that they know they got the right guy and they won't even listen to the points the "conspiracy theorists" are putting forward. (Richard Marquise, Vincent Cannistraro, Brian Murtagh and Frank Duggan are other luminaries of the genre.) But beyond knowing that he was involved in the US side of the investigation I don't know much about him.

He's not one of the names that I've heard referred to in the context of possible fabrication of evidence. Tom Thurman and Jack Christie usually take that dubious accolade. Mueller is a lawyer, not a cop or a forensics officer, so I wouldn't have thought he would be involved hands-on in faking evidence.

So, from the horse's mouth herself, we ascertain that Baylor is a BS artist.

See Baylor, this is why you should never quote a source as backing up your BS story without first reading the source to see if it actually does.