Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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River said:
I have no doubt that Mueller and pals would love to find something to go after Trump for. One would assume they have been doing their best to do so for quite some time now. I don't think any previous president has gone through such a thorough "probe" or review. Unprecedented? I suspect Mueller would love obstruction of justice, but Trump would never be convicted of that in any court. Could he be charged with it? For what exactly?

I've seen many toss out theories about money laundering without any proof also. Do you suspect Trump of election rigging? Based on? Just curious what yourself and others may think Trump could possibly end up charged with. "collusion"?

Does anyone think these documents might change things or did anyone notice this?

I have some suspicions that exposing the roots may be interesting.
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Is it fair to say, then, that you believe Mueller and his investigation to be partisan and without merit, and that Trump is innocent of the things that many believe him to be guilty of - conspiracy with the Russians, money-laundering, obstruction of justice?
 
It is amazing how little sense of self-preservation Trump has: with his financial history, I wouldn't make it my sport to piss off the FBI at every opportunity.
 
What we have to always keep in mind is that there is no reason in hell why these documents should be made public: the Senate can review them, order investigations etc.: it is none of the public's business.
 
Iamafalser said:
And if their "sources" are only the Steele dossier and their methods are illegal leaks to the press then how does that endanger anyone?
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Only a Trumpster would be naïve enough to believe that.

You do understand, don't you, that the investigation was under way well before the Steele dossier had ever even been heard of?

Where do you think they were getting their information from... the back of a Froot Loops packet?
 
The Mueller investigation isn't a TV crime drama: no judge will ignore all the evidence gathered so far because of some "fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree" BS.
No judge or jury so far has.
 
What is ironic is that the fact that it has already resulted in many prosecutions seems to have totally passed by many Trump supporters.

Shouldn't people who break laws be prosecuted?
 
Darat said:
What is ironic is that the fact that it has already resulted in many prosecutions seems to have totally passed by many Trump supporters.
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Since Dolt 45 took office, the Mueller investigation has charges 34 people and three companies on over 100 criminal counts.

Six of them (including three Trump associates) have pled guilty, and one haqs been convicted.

Michael Cohen - Guilty
Paul Manafort - Guilty
Mike Flynn - Guilty
George Papadopoulos - Guilty
Sam Patten - Guilty
Alex van der Zwaan _Guilty
Rick Gates - Guilty
Richard Pinedo - guilty
Konstantin V. Kilimnik
 
smartcooky said:
Since Dolt 45 took office, the Mueller investigation has charges 34 people and three companies on over 100 criminal counts.

Six of them (including three Trump associates) have pled guilty, and one haqs been convicted.

Michael Cohen - Guilty
Paul Manafort - Guilty
Mike Flynn - Guilty
George Papadopoulos - Guilty
Sam Patten - Guilty
Alex van der Zwaan _Guilty
Rick Gates - Guilty
Richard Pinedo - guilty
Konstantin V. Kilimnik
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Yep - it is indeed a witch hunt, bad time to be a witch...
 
River said:
I'm not so sure those two are comparable due to the varied reasons they began. Clinton did get a long ongoing investigation for sure, as did Nixon. In the end we'll see what if anything ends up sticking to Trump. I'm not convinced by any of the current evidence.
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This is an absurd post hoc rationalization. I suspect that if I listed other long-lasting investigations, you'd deem them not comparable for some reason or another.

You made a spectacularly false claim. Own it.
 
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Darat said:
But it will make Trump happy as he thinks it will show he is being unfairly persecuted, so what does the highlighted part have to do with anything?
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There's one problem: Dolt 45 doesn't read. So not only will they possibly damage FBI methods, and CIA methods, they'll likely only harm him as well.

But it'll make Nunes, Hannity, and whoever shows up on the Tucker Carlson White Power Hour say he's innocent, so he'll be happy for now.
 
smartcooky said:
Since Dolt 45 took office, the Mueller investigation has charges 34 people and three companies on over 100 criminal counts.

Six of them (including three Trump associates) have pled guilty, and one haqs been convicted.

Michael Cohen - Guilty
Paul Manafort - Guilty
Mike Flynn - Guilty
George Papadopoulos - Guilty
Sam Patten - Guilty
Alex van der Zwaan _Guilty
Rick Gates - Guilty
Richard Pinedo - guilty
Konstantin V. Kilimnik
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I count 8 "Guilty" names. You claimed that there were 7 deemed or claimed guilty right before listing them. Correction time?

Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I also found this from the other day interesting: Trump hasn't issued a direct presidential order to declassify the documents, and the DoJ is treating the request as they would had it been made by anybody in the US, according to one expert
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If they are and Trump doesn't officially make it an order... good. That's despite the elevation his Tweets have been given.
 
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