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Christopher7 said:
Real investigations consider all the possibilities. They follow every lead. No stone is left unturned.
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There was no reason to believe thermite or explosives were ever responsible. It was an airliner impact into a building, and a multistory fire, those stick out like sore thumbs. Why should an investigation required for either thermite or explosives when there was no reason to suspect there was? AGAIN what makes you think for even a second that they would be required to be searching for this evidence as a qualification for finding it?


Christopher7 said:
A hundred witnesses said they heard explosions. There are a number of videos of survivors and reporters who reported explosions.
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Big **** deal... They reported explosions... Now give me a reason to believe these reports would be unique to explosive charges... or for that matter thermite. What the hell do you think happens when you get an airliner not only slamming into a building, but also a subsequent multi-floor ignition left to burn uncontrolled?

Christopher7 said:
Anyone who writes them all off is lying about the possibility of explosives.
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Keep it up Chris7, you're playing the game like every other CT. You act as if nothing BUT explosives "explode." I take their statements at face value but unless you can in fact convince me or anyone else that explosions are somehow unusual in large fires your argument for both thermite and explosives is nothing more than an affirmation of the consequent. You'd be the first to convince me of any reason to believe explosions would somehow be unexpected in such a situation
 
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I get it now! The towers were brought down by orange juice! Chris, you’re a genius!
 
Christopher7 said:
Real investigations consider all the possibilities. They follow every lead. No stone is left unturned.
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They didn't ask a weatherman how fast the winds were at the top of the building in case wind contributed to the collapse. It was that obvious to those that were there and relevant experts that wind was not involved.

It was just as obvious to the same people that mad-made demolition wasn't involved, either.
 
TheDaver said:
I get it now! The towers were brought down by orange juice! Chris, you’re a genius!
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You got that wrong.
The jedi squirrels with lightswords helped the NWO death sqads replace the steel collums with nano vanila icecream, it was then melted with spacelasers.

The fire and airplanes was just smoke and mirrors.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
There was no reason to believe thermite or explosives were ever responsible.
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Hogwash. A hundred witnesses said they heard explosions. Numerous videos have people saying there were explosions. There were radio communications of firefighters saying there were explosions.
To ignore them all and not investigate the possibility of explosives is absurd.

It was an airliner impact into a building, and a multistory fire, those stick out like sore thumbs. Why should an investigation required for either mechanism when there was no reason to suspect there was?
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It has not been proven that the airplane inpact and the fries caused the total collapse of the trade towers.

Big **** deal... They reported explosions... Now give me a reason to believe these reports would be unique to explosive charges... or for that matter thermite. What the hell do you think happens when you get an airliner not only slamming into a building, and a subsequent multi-floor ignition?
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Big deal? You bet it is. To find out what the explosions were it is necessary to investigate. There were too many to go unexplained. NIST made no attempt whatsoever to explain what the explosions were. That's a farce, not a real investigation.
 
Toke said:
You got that wrong.
The jedi squirrels with lightswords helped the NWO death sqads replace the steel collums with nano vanila icecream, it was then melted with spacelasers.

The fire and airplanes was just smoke and mirrors.
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Have you considered fire breathing mutant ninja termites? ;)
 
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Christopher7 said:
It has not been proven that the airplane inpact and the fries caused the total collapse of the trade towers.
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Comparing it with all of the arguments supporting alternative culprits, it is by far the most supported.

Christopher7 said:
Big deal? You bet it is. To find out what the explosions were it is necessary to investigate. There were too many to go unexplained.
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So you're only argument for thermite is a single stream of material from the impact region no less... and yours for explosives, there being "too many" explosions reported in witness statements which are all consistent with a large scale fire? Forget that the molten materials were all seen long after the collapse which makes them moot

Quite ambiguous I see...
 
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BigAl said:
It was just as obvious to the same people that mad-made demolition wasn't involved, either.
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No. It was obvious that there were multiple explosions. Some wrapped around the building like in a CD.

Firefighter discussion:
"Detonated, like they had planned to take down a building."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zY1lHFAxVs

There are more like that and you know it.


You sound like a government spokesperson spewing their double talk to justify not investigating the possibility of explosives.
 
Christopher7 said:
....You sound like a government spokesperson spewing their double talk to justify not investigating the possibility of explosives.
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Since (with one very small exception) there is no aspect of the collapses of WTC 1 and WTC 2 which needed to be caused by demolition OR was assisted by any demolition technique why should Government waste more public money?

The only legitimate reason for doing more investigation is to explain to citizens who are genuinely concerned AND unqualified persons how it happened and why there was no demolition.

Given the number of "truthers" who will never accept the truth the conclusion again is "Why waste public money?" The "official stories" are not perfect, but for the three WTC buildings they are valid and credible explanations. In hindsight possible the WTC 1&2 investigation stopping at "global collapse was inevitable" did not go far enough for the genuine concerned citizens. And they are the ones vulnerable to truther ********/lies/mendacity.

EDIT Ooh we have rude words filter on this forum - but we let people insult each other. I had better get used to different rules. The ****** was a standard bit of Aussie referring to the faeces of the male bovine.....
 
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C7 said:
It has not been proven that the airplane impact and the fries caused the total collapse of the trade towers.
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Grizzly Bear said:
Comparing it with all of the arguments supporting alternative culprits, it is by far the most supported.
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? ? ? That has no relation to the fact that NIST did not explain the total collapse.

C7 said:
To find out what the explosions were it is necessary to investigate. There were too many to go unexplained.
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So you're only argument for thermite is a single stream of material from the impact region no less...
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That has nothing to do with the above statement. We are discussing the fact that NIST did not investigate the possibility of explosions despite a hundred first responders and others reporting explosions.


and yours for explosives, there being "too many" explosions reported in witness statements which are all consistent with a large scale fire? Forget that the molten materials were all seen long after the collapse which makes them moot
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No they were not!

You are not this stupid. You are intentionally wasting space with nonsencial responces.
 
BigAl said:
"like" is a metaphor.

How do I say this politely, is English your first language?
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Yes it is and I understood the man perfectly. You intentionally do not. He said: "It looked like they had planned to down a building." Maybe that doesn't translate well but in the U.S. it means he thinks it was a CD.
 
TheDaver said:
So on your planet, firefighters are experts in demolition? What a strange place!
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You don't have to be an expert to recognize a CD any more that you have to be a rocket scientist to recognize a rocket.

This is only one of many reports of explosives that look like a CD. To ignore them all is a whitewash.
 
Christopher7 said:
Yes it is and I understood the man perfectly. You intentionally do not. He said: "It looked like they had planned to down a building." Maybe that doesn't translate well but in the U.S. it means he thinks it was a CD.
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No "looks like" means "looks like" that is why he said "looks like".

He doesn't think it was a CD, he thinks and said it looked like one, which we all already know it looked like CD (only with little noise, and no flashes).
 
Christopher7 said:
Yes it is and I understood the man perfectly. You intentionally do not. He said: "It looked like they had planned to down a building." Maybe that doesn't translate well but in the U.S. it means he thinks it was a CD.
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So what - there are nearly always many confused witnesses around major disasters. and that before the "middle men" start to twist the words and verbal those witnesses.

The real question is still not "Are we correctly reporting what the witness said?"

It is "Was the building demolished?" Since none of the buildings were demolished it matters not whether the witness was rightly or wrongly reported.

.....and it is clear that he was wrong.
 
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