Molten Steel

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BigAl said:
You don''t understand how relatively meaningless "reduce by 2/3rds" is when applied to human perception of volume, any volume.
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You don't know diddly so don't give me that condescending attitude.

A 2/3 reduction in sound is huge.
 
Christopher7 said:
You guys act like this is rocket surgery.

130 db uncomfortably loud
81 - 100 db very loud
60 - 80 db moderately loud
50 db and below, quiet
http://www.rcaanews.org/noiselev.htm

[FONT=&quot]Sounds[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]dB SPL[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Rocket Launching[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]180[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jet Engine[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]140[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Thunderclap, Air Raid Siren 1 Meter[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]130[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jet takeoff (200 ft)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]120[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Rock Concert, Discotheque[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]110[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Firecrackers, Subway Train[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]100[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Heavy Truck (15 Meter), City Traffic[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]90[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Alarm Clock (1 Meter), Hair Dryer[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]80[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Noisy Restaurant, Business Office[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]70[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Air Conditioning Unit, Conversational Speech[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]60[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Light Traffic (50 Meter), Average Home[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]50[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Living Room, Quiet Office[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]40[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Library, Soft Whisper (5 Meter)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]30[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Broadcasting Studio, Rustling Leaves[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]20[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hearing Threshold[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]0[/FONT]
http://www.jimprice.com/prosound/db.htm
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How many decibels do you think is 2/3 less than the 140 for the jet engines?
 
Grizzly Bear said:
How many decibels do you think is 2/3 less than the 140 for the jet engines?
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About 136db


You really don't have a clue about the stuff you post. You are also completely opaque to listening and considering the answers and asking followup questions so you can learn.
 
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TjW said:
Is it possible that the energy balance of the debris pile was such that it could have kept molten steel molten, and yet did not have enough energy to melt any other steel? Certainly. Is it likely?
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Neither of us can say.

Consider also that you're claiming that the thermite was used to bring down the building. That would mean that the liquid iron started near the top of the building,
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How many times do I have to answer the same question?

I don't know where or how the thermite was used.


This is a meaningless subjective diversion.
 
Christopher7 said:
Maybe you are, I'm not.

Dum-da-dum-dum.

Molten steel was found in the basements. Other than that, I don't know. You're the one talking about mid air.
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Well the thermite claim based on the molten metal in the basements is dubious in of itself, particularly given that many CT's like to use it in tandem with bombs in the basement. The problem for this particular claim is that the collapse started purely from within the impact zones, not the basement levels
 
BigAl said:
About 136db


You really don't have a clue about the stuff you post. You are also completely opaque to listening and considering the answers and asking followup questions so you can learn.
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for the record I was trying to see if C7 like steve forgot that the magnitude of sound was logarithmic

Why did you give him the answer!? :mad:
You ruined my plot!!! You're EVIL!!! EVIL I TELL YOU!!!!

ETA: Ah well his response to you makes up for it... so I forgive you... :D
 
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Grizzly Bear said:
Well the thermite claim based on the molten metal in the basements is dubious in of itself, particularly given that many CT's like to use it in tandem with bombs in the basement. The problem for this particular claim is that the collapse started purely from within the impact zones, not the basement levels
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I don't make any claim about what was used or where except for the molten steel falling from the 80th floor.
 
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