Modest immigration proposal

[dudalb]

Who said that it was ok for white folks and not brown folks? Certainly not me or anyone else posting in this thread.

I like to use this analogy: if a homeless stranger snuck into your home, would you allow them to stay? I suspect you wouldn't; you would call the police and have them removed. And the reasons why you would do that would would have nothing to do with race. You would be concerned with them stealing your stuff and hurting you and your family. You can't have an open door policy when it comes to your home.


I live in McAllen, TX - right on the border. I am Hispanic/Anglo. Take a look one day at the demographics and welfare statistics in my neck of the woods. I live this problem every day.

Over the top broad analogies and personal acendotes don';t constitute proof.

 

[dudalb]

We can't depend on our neighbors to the south to fix the problem. This is our problem. I am all for large-scale detention on the border and expedited immigration trials. This is the solution: You catch them, take care of their humanitarian needs while we detain them, then send them back. Once you release them into communities, you will never see most of them again.

And after you deport them,they sneak right back over the border again,and we are back to square one.
And I note you still fail to comment on the suggestion that we go after the people who employ illegal labor if you are serious about cracking down on the problem. But heaven forbid we go after wealthy Anglos.........

 

[quadraginta]

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Concentration camp has a connotation that no one should want to be associated with. I care not for appealing to the desires of anyone who would be comfortable or pleased with calling something a concentration camp.

"A rose by any other name ..."?

Nobody had a problem with the name when the U.S. first coined it to describe the cesspits ("suburbs of hell") that we herded Filipino women and children into during the "benevolent assimilation", aka Philippine-American War.

The British didn't have a problem with it either when they were letting the wives and children of the Boers whose land they were taking die from starvation and disease in South Africa.

Of course since it was co-opted by the Nazis decades later it has become less acceptable, I agree.

I suppose we should use a term more palatable to the etymologically squeamish.

"Internment camp" has some unfortunate baggage after that little thing with the Japanese-Americans.

Maybe "reservation"? That's still pretty popular. It isn't like there are any negative connotations with that, right?

 

[xjx388]

"A rose by any other name ..."?

Nobody had a problem with the name when the U.S. first coined it to describe the cesspits ("suburbs of hell") that we herded Filipino women and children into during the "benevolent assimilation", aka Philippine-American War.

The British didn't have a problem with it either when they were letting the wives and children of the Boers whose land they were taking die from starvation and disease in South Africa.

Of course since it was co-opted by the Nazis decades later it has become less acceptable, I agree.

I suppose we should use a term more palatable to the etymologically squeamish.

"Internment camp" has some unfortunate baggage after that little thing with the Japanese-Americans.

Maybe "reservation"? That's still pretty popular. It isn't like there are any negative connotations with that, right?

I prefer "Humanitarian Care Centers."

 

[quadraginta]

I feel like a broken record but the border problem isn't about people its about economics. If you want people to stop coming here illegally you need to spend the resources hunting down the people that are employing them. Arrest the CEO's of these companies, lock up the board of directors, and anyone else involved.

This. And make sure it is hard time at real prisons, not any of these "Club Fed" resorts.

Add to that a bounty and citizenship for any illegals who blew the whistle and the problem would resolve itself pretty quick.

Save all the money you would spend on fencing, detention centers, and processing and instead take away the motive to come here.

Of course this would cause in increase in labor costs for a whole range of goods and services which of course will be passed onto the consumer. Pretty soon everyone in America will want to rethink the whole "kick out the brown people."

When I was at Duke in '72-'73 the student body chose to boycott iceberg lettuce in solidarity with Chavez and the UFW.

This lasted for about a semester until the kids got tired of overpriced endive.

Some sacrifices are just too hard to make, I guess.

 

[quadraginta]

The Chinese would stampede over the Mexicans trying to get in?

The way things are going we may just end up stampeding over the Mexicans to get into China.