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[Moderated]The Holocaust never happened!

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What are some of the common "evidence" for this conspiracy-theory. And are there ANY of them that makes any sense?

My understanding is, that it is mostly believed by white suppremacist types, the hardcore CT'ers who buys into ALL CTs (Guys like Roxdog, or a couple of other characters on the LC board that jump to mind), but is it also popular among arabs?
 
Given my grandmother was Hitler Youth and SAW it happen, I'm inclined to believe her saying it did rather some jackass teenager who swears it didn't.
 
My great uncle was one of the first British troops to liberate Belsen.
He had nightmares about the place for years.

There are plenty of servicemen who saw what the Germans had done with their own eyes.
 
Holocaust Deniers tend to cite a few isolated pieces of "evidence". Some I can think of:

1. Some of the more extreme claims made by survivors (lamp shades made of human skin, etc) were found to be incorrect.
2. Gas chambers were not routinely used in German camps (let's just ignore camps outside Germany shall we!)
3. Chambers the size described by survivors are not present at the camps (what? Holocaust survivors didn't survey the camps and produced detailed scale plans! Pffft.)
4. Some (flawed) tests found no evidence of extensive gas use in one of the alleged gas chambers.
5. No written formal order has been found which directly orders the holocaust.

There's a few of the ones I've come across. Of course all of the above points have serious flaws, and do not contribute to proving the Holocaust did not happen. Not to mention they totally ignore the mountains of evidence that suggests the Holocaust did indeed happen.

-Gumboot
 
God bless'em!
But the scary part is, that we are slowly losing those generations. (Also a great reason for spielberg to do something like his Shoah project) Will CT'ers have a leg to stand on when that happens?
 
Oh, in answer to your last question, yes Holocaust Denial has a certain popularity in the Arab world. El Presidento of Iran, for example, is a big time Holocaust Denier.

-Gumboot
 
Quick correction there, gumboot: most Iranians are Persian (but I'll bet you knew that).
 
Gravy said:
Quick correction there, gumboot: most Iranians are Persian (but I'll bet you knew that).
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Yes. My bad. :o Holocaust Denial is certainly popular amongst wheat-Muslims (Muslims from west countries where the primary crop is wheat, such as Iraq). I'm not sure how common it is amongst Rice-Muslims (Muslims from east countries where the primary crop is rice, such as Indonesia).

-Gumboot
 
Of course, when someone wants to deny the Holocaust, one should ask them which part of it? The part about six million Jews being killed, or the part about five million other people, including such people as prisoners of war, Gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally and physically handicapped, and political dissidents, who were also killed. Or do they deny both parts?
 
Corsair 115 said:
Of course, when someone wants to deny the Holocaust, one should ask them which part of it? The part about six million Jews being killed, or the part about five million other people, including such people as prisoners of war, Gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally and physically handicapped, and political dissidents, who were also killed. Or do they deny both parts?
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They deny all of it. These anti semites aren't exactly friendly to Gypsies, homosexuals or the metanlly and physically hanidcapped.
 
One of the "points" I've seen made about how the Holocaust never happened is how the official number of people who were killed at Auschwitz has been slowing going down over the years. I guess that means that since the number has been revised, no one was really killed.
http://www.rense.com/general69/dim.htm

Hey! Sounds like the Twin Towers, I remember the day of the attacks seeing numbers close to 7,000 dead, then it went down to not even 3,000?! 9/11 never happened!

I see others go into more detail about how all of the photographs showing the murdered bodies were faked just to get the world to support a Jewish state. Sounds pretty retarded considering the fact that the holocaust didn't only target the people of the Jewish faith.
 
One of my former co-worker's father was a photographer in the army during WWII. He has a box of pictures taken at one of the concentration camps. One day he overheard some of the ladies that worked for him (he was the lab manager) talking about the holocaust. One lady mentioned that it "wasn't as bad as they say". The next day, when he handed out assignments for the day, her assignment was to look at the pictures his father took.
 
Billdave2 said:
One of my former co-worker's father was a photographer in the army during WWII. He has a box of pictures taken at one of the concentration camps. One day he overheard some of the ladies that worked for him (he was the lab manager) talking about the holocaust. One lady mentioned that it "wasn't as bad as they say". The next day, when he handed out assignments for the day, her assignment was to look at the pictures his father took.
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Ouch.

-Gumboot
 
We all know the Holocaust happened. Even Holocaust deniers know it happened. How many Jews were killed? I personally compared an old census of European Jews from 1929 and compared that to post WW2 figures..and I came up with around 4 million dead Jews. Does it matter if it was 6 million or 4 million? No. These are not errors of fact..just errors of math and reliable census data.
 
parky76 said:
We all know the Holocaust happened. Even Holocaust deniers know it happened. How many Jews were killed? I personally compared an old census of European Jews from 1929 and compared that to post WW2 figures..and I came up with around 4 million dead Jews. Does it matter if it was 6 million or 4 million? No. These are not errors of fact..just errors of math and reliable census data.
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Exactly, I forgot all about looking at those figures. I remember seeing them a while ago during an argument about the holocaust on a different message board. I think the denier just responded with, "Those are New World Order numbers, fake!"

Or something like that.
 
Hench the reason why I like Spielbergs "Survivors of the Shoah" foundation as much as I do.
Theres nothing like being faced with the testimonies of those who effing LIVED it to counter this BS.
I would also like to present these idiots with some of the Danish policeofficers and resistance fighers who were interned in one of these camps after our local demonspawn of a german "overlord" decided to incacerate them. It was only the idiotic beliefs in an "aryan" race of which the Danes were supposedly direct decendants of which kept them from the gaschambers.
 
firecoins said:
They deny all of it. These anti semites aren't exactly friendly to Gypsies, homosexuals or the metanlly and physically hanidcapped.
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I only asked the question I did because from the (admittedly little) I've heard from Holocaust deniers is that they seem to focus exclusively on the Jewish part of it and ignore the millions of non-Jewish victims.
 
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