Mobertermy's Pentagon Evidence

Mobertermy said:
Because if you did that you would have to say AQ had infiltrated the Pentagon. Use the plane as cover and then just claim the plane caused all damage.
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To what purpose? Why? What is the specific need to use explosives? Was there a particular part of the pentagon that needed destroying? If so why?
 
Mobertermy said:
They had the area evacuated very quickly. And yes, they could have had boots on the ground to deal with any of Rumsfeld's "unknown unknowns." Such as the silent stranger that showed up in a white van that helped Lloyde get the pole out of his car and then drove away without "saying a word."
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Lloyd was almost certainly deafened by the plane, explosion and the shock of what happened. Its a common experience of those caught up in disasters.
Likely the guy spoke but lloyd simply didn't hear him.

"They didn't get the NoC poles back up that morning. The whole area was off limits within a very short time (20 minutes I think).
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No pictures or other evidence they were ever down or ever put back up. Are you saying the photographer that got all the rest simply ignored the NOC ones.....why would he do that? are you accusing him of conspiracy to commit mass murder????

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Sunstealer said:
To what purpose? Why? What is the specific need to use explosives? Was there a particular part of the pentagon that needed destroying? If so why?
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Ah to hide the records of two bazillion dollars that was missing!. However since those records would have been on computers and all computer databases are backed up at remote locations.....destroying an office in the pentagon does you no good at all......so why do it? :confused:
 
Dave Rogers said:
DSC_0421 is timestamped at 9:57, and is the last in the series.

I can see why it's so important to you to find a reason to discard all the photos. If they're genuine, they refute your entire hypothesis very comprehensively; in fact, any single one of them would do so.

Dave
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Yes, they would disprove my theory. But the reason I started studying them was actually to prove Lloyde innocent, not to prove a plane hit from the North path.
 
CurtC said:
Out of the short-list of people who saw the plane really well, only one seems to have been in a position to confirm which track (north or south) it was on, and that was Ed Paik. If the plane flew approximately over him, it was on the south track. If the plane had been on a north track, it would have passed a couple of blocks to the north of Ed and he wouldn't have seen it at all (his building faced south).

So the only witness whose opinion on this matter is worth anything, is Ed Paik, and he confirms the SoC path.
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Paik was in the office of his shop and witnessed flight 77 flying south of him through the south facing office window which had a header height of about 80 inches. This was covered extensively in an older CIT thread a few years ago I participated in. Using the azimuth of his field of vision confirmed that the flight was over Columbia pike. Aligning it with the flight data. Another SOC was Morin, Who placed the path of flight 77 over the southern end of the Navy annex complex.
 
Dave Rogers said:
DSC_0421 is timestamped at 9:57, and is the last in the series.

I can see why it's so important to you to find a reason to discard all the photos. If they're genuine, they refute your entire hypothesis very comprehensively; in fact, any single one of them would do so.

Dave
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Oh, the other thing is, if I could prove photo manipulation, that would discredit CIT pretty comprehensively too wouldn't it?
 
Sunstealer said:
To what purpose? Why? What is the specific need to use explosives? Was there a particular part of the pentagon that needed destroying? If so why?
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Yes, they had to get the accounting office (forget the official name). Take a look at the ACSE casualty graphic...see how most of the casualties are furthest away from the site of impact?
 
Mobertermy said:
Gee thanks pal. I just don't feel like going through the whole SoC NoC thing again...it's tedious. People are free to study the accounts and come to there own conclusions. Goatboy ain't gonna change my mind and I ain't gonna change his so why go through the motions?
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Bump.

Ever hear of Frank Probst? Yeah, CIT hadn't either.

In addition to the pending question regarding the missing North side damage path, can you share with us your theory of how the debris and passengers from a plane that crashed on a North Side path ended up on the South Side path?

/I think we are getting into a "It is not your fault" area.
 
Mobertermy said:
Yes, they would disprove my theory. But the reason I started studying them was actually to prove Lloyde innocent, not to prove a plane hit from the North path.
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Under US law Lloyd is innocent until proven guilty. He (nor you) have to prove anything and CIT are certainly not going you convince anyone to even bring a prosecution against him. The burden lies with them and they fail miserably.
 
Mobertermy said:
Yes, they would disprove my theory. But the reason I started studying them was actually to prove Lloyde innocent, not to prove a plane hit from the North path.
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As i explained clearly in the other thread. Lloyde was guilty of nothing more than being confused, Photos taken with a telephoto lens can be confusing. Lloyde never saw those photos before the Craig interview. He is not "covering up" for anybody. He insists he was north of his location due to nothing more than ignorance. Stubborn as he is, Anything that conflicts with his perceived reality must be a conspiracy. He even went to a reading class once a week that focused on conspiracies. Yet he couldn't even remember the star of the conspiracy subject when his class was studying the Princess Diana conspiracy. I really wish CT's would leave Lloyde alone, Its not so much the "eye of the storm" as it is the "eye of confusion".
 
Mobertermy said:
Oh, the other thing is, if I could prove photo manipulation, that would discredit CIT pretty comprehensively too wouldn't it?
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How so? you would have to show they manipulated the pictures, and they didn't.....all you would do is help their case that there was a coverup. Sure you would show they were mistaken about lloyd but in the big scheme of things Lloyd is of no importance.
 
Mobertermy said:
Yes, they had to get the accounting office (forget the official name). Take a look at the ACSE casualty graphic...see how most of the casualties are furthest away from the site of impact?
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Why? To hide the fact that they stole $2.3 trillion dollars? lol

You do realize that backups of records are kept, correct?
 
Mobertermy said:
Gee thanks pal. I just don't feel like going through the whole SoC NoC thing again
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"Again"? Odd, you didn't post in any of the CIT threads dealing with NoC... or did you? :rolleyes:

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