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LightPiercingDarkness said:


WE (has a created free will being. Able to make whatever choice we deceid). Creation is not robotic. It is Free will.
Lyndale

Warning: this will make religious people want to rip my head off!

Everything that happens is the will of God, right? A little girl run over by a bus is the will of God. 6 million Jews who died in nazi death camps during WWII died because God wanted them to die. He made the nazis do what they did. Do you disagree? God is omnipotent, right? So, even if he somehow didn't make nazis kill all the inocent people he still allowed it. God loves all man, right? But not Jews apparently. And don't get me started on children with leucemia or any other terminal illness.

Before you say it's all a work of Satan, I should remind you that God is omnipotent, so he controls Satan and his minions, too.

Does God really love us or are we just one of his experiments he keeps busy with on long winter nights?
 
Powa said:


Warning: this will make religious people want to rip my head off!

Everything that happens is the will of God, right? A little girl run over by a bus is the will of God. 6 million Jews who died in nazi death camps during WWII died because God wanted them to die. He made the nazis do what they did. Do you disagree? God is omnipotent, right? So, even if he somehow didn't make nazis kill all the inocent people he still allowed it. God loves all man, right? But not Jews apparently. And don't get me started on children with leucemia or any other terminal illness.

Before you say it's all a work of Satan, I should remind you that God is omnipotent, so he controls Satan and his minions, too.

Does God really love us or are we just one of his experiments he keeps busy with on long winter nights?



"Everything that happens is the will of God, right?"

NO.
IT IS NOT.
Just because of "what you know He is (which by the way is a very small amount). That does not mean..........Because of who He is....He has His "knowing" stuck in the future, before anything happens.

Is it all satans fault? "directly"?..................NO. indirectly ..............yes. A plate is shoved in front of each of us. Regardless of content, we make a free will choice on our direction.



He is the creator and we are the created. He askes by faith. We pick and chose.

One day each of us.........we will see a final of 2 different conclusions...............and based on decsions we make/made....will deceide which of those conclusions we get.

Whether you like what is or isn't.


Lyndale
 
Its like a good book.

Sure you can look and know, but what purpose were there be in that?

Just because He can doesn't mean He will.



I'll fall over backwards the day I see has much interest in has what is Good, that is as a opposed to what there is of bad.


If all you ever look for is bad.........it will be all you ever see.



Lyndale
 
LightPiercingDarkness said:




"Everything that happens is the will of God, right?"

NO.
IT IS NOT.
Just because of "what you know He is (which by the way is a very small amount). That does not mean..........Because of who He is....He has His "knowing" stuck in the future, before anything happens.

Is it all satans fault? "directly"?..................NO. indirectly ..............yes. A plate is shoved in front of each of us. Regardless of content, we make a free will choice on our direction.



He is the creator and we are the created. He askes by faith. We pick and chose.

One day each of us.........we will see a final of 2 different conclusions...............and based on decsions we make/made....will deceide which of those conclusions we get.

Whether you like what is or isn't.


Lyndale


OK, so we have free will. Fine. The nazis chose to do all the atrocities they did. OK. But God did nothing to stop them. He knew about it and still let the poor people suffer and die. Did he not love them? Was there something that all those people did wrong? Did they pray to the wrong god?

So we can come up with these possibilities:
- God is omnipotent and does all the bad things to us (or allows them)
- God is not omnipotent and can't stop Satan from doing bad things to us
- God is omnipotent and just doesn't care (or maybe he moved on to less ambitious projects)
- God doesn't exist

Which is it?
 
Just because the "Band Wagon" is so big and the wheels "squeak" so loud................does not mean..............

The majority of creation will change the mind of God.


Jesus did not die in vain.


Repent.

Live by all the words of the Son, Jesus.

Do not stray.


Know your creator.


Don't and You will know the flip side of it. His promises. Not mine.
He's the creator. Not you.


Lyndale
 
Powa said:



OK, so we have free will. Fine. The nazis chose to do all the atrocities they did. OK. But God did nothing to stop them. He knew about it and still let the poor people suffer and die. Did he not love them? Was there something that all those people did wrong? Did they pray to the wrong god?

So we can come up with these possibilities:
- God is omnipotent and does all the bad things to us (or allows them)
- God is not omnipotent and can't stop Satan from doing bad things to us
- God is omnipotent and just doesn't care (or maybe he moved on to less ambitious projects)
- God doesn't exist

Which is it?

I've addressed this.


Scroll up. You've only repeated yourself in another format equal to the first inquiry concerning the same subject matter.

I must conclude, that my original response was not satisfactory.

I thus conclude, that any remaining responses will also be met with the same drive.

So..........


I think the best response to give you is....

Test the path, it will not fail. I promise you, just dont alter it in no way, shape or form.

Lyndale
 
LightPiercingDarkness said:


I've addressed this.


Scroll up. You've only repeated yourself in another format equal to the first inquiry concerning the same subject matter.

I must conclude, that my original response was not satisfactory.

I thus conclude, that any remaining responses will also be met with the same drive.

So..........


I think the best response to give you is....

Test the path, it will not fail. I promise you, just dont alter it in no way, shape or form.

Lyndale
You're right Lyndale, your original response was not satisfactory. All you are saying (over and over again) is that Jesus did not die in vein and that His path is the one to choose. This means nothing to me. Neither does this:
I'll fall over backwards the day I see has much interest in has what is Good, that is as a opposed to what there is of bad.
I can't make head or tails out of this sentence.

Lyndale you don't have to answer me, just think about what I said.
 
Powa said:

You're right Lyndale, your original response was not satisfactory. All you are saying (over and over again) is that Jesus did not die in vein and that His path is the one to choose. This means nothing to me. Neither does this:

I can't make head or tails out of this sentence.

Lyndale you don't have to answer me, just think about what I said.


"just think about what I said" could be easily interrupreted has...
(based on what we have recently been talking about)

Because 'bad happens God isn't in control or doesn't care or isn't there.

Bottom line is for me (regardless of the understanding)...God is.
He is the creator. He is in control and though I may not yet understand completly, why things are the way they are....I would rather put my trust in Him then man or that which is against Him/God.


I wish you 'would think about and reconsider your path, that you chose. He is. He gave all He had. God formed us. satan deformed us. Jesus reformed us.

Lets be hypothetical for a moment concerning these 'faces.

Lets say they are exactly what I say they are.

Ok?

Now....why?......Why would God allow man to know now rather then 10 years before or 10 years from now.

Answer...because His return is soon...the rapture is getting ready to happen. I believe that in His 'way...He's like saying ....look after all that is.......I am even showing you this...I've revealed even them/faces. You will have no excuses when you stand before me.


People...........with all my heart and soul.....I'm telling you. These faces are and they are what I've told you...the fallen of heaven. God is getting ready to return. When? I don't know but it will be soon and most likely it will be blamend on aliens when it does.
I know fully well how all of this may sound to a non believer. Nuts.
I can't shout it loud enough..........."Stand". Stand and be counted His. He's comming. He's not comming has a lamb this time. He comes has a lion. His Judgement is at hand and He will be true to His promises. Jesus is the Son of God. He did die and rise on the third day. His words are testable. His creditials are true. ..............and whether we like it or not............we will be judged.

You are for Him or you are against Him. There is no in-between.

There are verses that say in the bible.........that when Israel becomes a nation again ....the following generation would see the second comming of "the Son of man (Jesus)".
Israel became a nation again after 2000 years in may of 1948. If you go by biblical guidelines.........the shortest generation is 35 years and the longest is 65 years......that would make it between 1984-2012.
I am not trying to pin point a date..but I can see the winds picking up.
There will be no excuses you can think of 'when you finally realize you made 'the wrong choice. None.

My God..... stand and know Him. He's comming.

I'd give it all up for Him, even the mill...

I was thinking last night.

Randi.............you want proof? Become a new creature in Christ and live the way He said....you'll find your proof and you can pay yourself the million.

Time is so close.

I can feel it in my heart....................you sure your ready for this rollercoaster? You better be, because when this ride starts, there will be no getting off.


Lyndale
 
Lyndale, by the way, how do you know that the path you're walking on is the right one? Ask a jew, a muslim or a budist what the right path is. You're absolutely sure that you're right. So are they. All of you can't be right. How do you know that you're not going to muslim hell for not worshiping Allah? Your whole life you may have been pissing of a deity.
 
Powa said:
Lyndale, by the way, how do you know that the path you're walking on is the right one? Ask a jew, a muslim or a budist what the right path is. You're absolutely sure that you're right. So are they. All of you can't be right. How do you know that you're not going to muslim hell for not worshiping Allah? Your whole life you may have been pissing of a deity.


Because all other paths fail, thus they are false paths.


Only the one path works. I've walked it and lived by it. It has never failed. It has and is true to "itself". The others are not.

That's the difference.

Lyndale
 
When this gets into religious BS, I have to jump in.
LightPiercingDarkness said:



Because all other paths fail, thus they are false paths.


Only the one path works. I've walked it and lived by it. It has never failed. It has and is true to "itself". The others are not.

That's the difference.

Lyndale
Define "fail".

If you mean "the opposite of succeed", they all have. None of them have been wiped out yet. In fact, some are growing.

If you mean "doesn't follow your close-minded beliefs," then I'd have to agree.

But you see faces that aren't there and assert that this is a sign that God's comin' to stomp the heathens. These faces are vague. The "5" side on a dice looks more like a face than your assertions. Heck, a checkerboard looks more like a face.

There must be some other way to show that the "faces" are just that. Instead, you rely on ad hominem attacks, argument ad nauseum, and appeals to authority.

I had the same "faces" in a graphic of mine. The graphic wasn't a digital photo, or a scan of an analog photo. It was a drawing! I start to become a little skeptical if I can reproduce these "faces" without a photo.

Or how about we go one further: a picture that hasn't "existed" in the real world. I made this with MSPaint. See the "faces"
EDIT: probably this pic would be better:
 
Following DarkMagician's example:

Now....why?......Why would God allow man to know now rather then 10 years before or 10 years from now.

Answer...because His return is soon...the rapture is getting ready to happen. I believe that in His 'way...He's like saying ....look after all that is.......I am even showing you this...I've revealed even them/faces. You will have no excuses when you stand before me.

This is religious BS. What makes you the great revealer? Why the big deal about faces in pictures? A rapture sign? I thought cataclysmic events were supposed to herald the end times. Now we have the technology to see these alleged demons - from your words we can assume that they have always been there. So what's the big deal? Just because we can now see them, will they change our lifestyle at all, besides making certain people paranoid and turning them into second-rate evangelists?

You must be disappointed, pinning your crusade on a few random pixel patterns. It's not really working for you, you know. You are going to have to find a more concrete way of feeling superior.

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Because all other paths fail, thus they are false paths.


Only the one path works. I've walked it and lived by it. It has never failed. It has and is true to "itself". The others are not.

That's the difference.[/b]

Ah. So you've been resurrected then? How do you know which path is the right one unless you have kicked the bucket and evaluated the results? If you have not died and seen this so-called afterlife, then your statement that you are on the one true path is just so much conjecture.
 
DarkMagician said:
When this gets into religious BS, I have to jump in.
Define "fail".

If you mean "the opposite of succeed", they all have. None of them have been wiped out yet. In fact, some are growing.

If you mean "doesn't follow your close-minded beliefs," then I'd have to agree.

But you see faces that aren't there and assert that this is a sign that God's comin' to stomp the heathens. These faces are vague. The "5" side on a dice looks more like a face than your assertions. Heck, a checkerboard looks more like a face.

There must be some other way to show that the "faces" are just that. Instead, you rely on ad hominem attacks, argument ad nauseum, and appeals to authority.

I had the same "faces" in a graphic of mine. The graphic wasn't a digital photo, or a scan of an analog photo. It was a drawing! I start to become a little skeptical if I can reproduce these "faces" without a photo.

Or how about we go one further: a picture that hasn't "existed" in the real world. I made this with MSPaint. See the "faces"
EDIT: probably this pic would be better:


Fail. Has in ..........the claim of the path turns out to be false....not what it says it is............fails to provide what it says it will....etc.


Faces?....fact.....I didnt put them there..........fact....when found....they all have the same attributes.............fact.....on live video (when found), they hold their image.............fact..............they aint the loony tunes.



With or without the faces..........the things I tell you about God would be no different. I don't rely on my finding for the furtherence of Gods truth.

Lyndale
 
LightPiercingDarkness said:



Jesus.



Lyndale
Oh, you mean Jesus isn't?

Anyway, before you can give us Jesus as proof of anything you should prove his existence in the first place. Can you do that?
 
EvilBiker said:
Following DarkMagician's example:



This is religious BS. What makes you the great revealer? Why the big deal about faces in pictures? A rapture sign? I thought cataclysmic events were supposed to herald the end times. Now we have the technology to see these alleged demons - from your words we can assume that they have always been there. So what's the big deal? Just because we can now see them, will they change our lifestyle at all, besides making certain people paranoid and turning them into second-rate evangelists?

You must be disappointed, pinning your crusade on a few random pixel patterns. It's not really working for you, you know. You are going to have to find a more concrete way of feeling superior.



Ah. So you've been resurrected then? How do you know which path is the right one unless you have kicked the bucket and evaluated the results? If you have not died and seen this so-called afterlife, then your statement that you are on the one true path is just so much conjecture.


I am no one. Why things are the way they are..I can only tell you what I feel in my heart. I am not looking for a following or anything of that nature. I have never used these faces for that either and before you get all worked up over that statement...you remember this.......I've been very clear in what I've described to be the path to our Creator/Father (Jesus) and very clear in what is not (e.i. faces).

You don't have to die know a path and know if it is true or not.
Stop spending so much time worrying about the path and what may or maynot be.......and see what is. Jesus is the Son of God. His words do not fail. If you don't try, how will you ever know?


Lyndale
 

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