King of the Americas
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So, no one is ever 100% right. Rational Choice Theory notes that there is simply not enough time for any one person, to garner all of the information, and make a perfect, 100% accurate decision. Everything is a matter of a best guess, with the best information at hand.
When I began my studies, beyond the indoctrination I received as a child, about the true nature and history of the world, I was shocked at what I found. Admittedly, I came from a german catholic upbringing, with a public school education. I was told (catholics don't read the Bible) that God made Adam out of clay, and Eve from one of his ribs. Reading the Bible, I found that it actually said, "Let us create Man in our image." That was quite different than the 'story' I learned in CCD (religion classes for catholics). I was told a myth, based on part of the Bible. However, even as a young child, that didn't make any sense...neither did Santa Claus. "Flying reindeer? Really, around the whole world to every kid in one night?!" The awe and wonder lasted about two years. My older cousin told me the truth, and helped me to find the gifts I would receive later that week.
The lesson to me was that adults lie. And the older I got, the more authority figures I saw lying to maintain power. Religions, governments, agencies...they all have an agenda, looking to prime us for their frame on the reality that made us, that we live in, that we are to be.
I am not financially well-endowed (for now), so investigating the truth of who and what we are, past and present, was a matter of public libraries (this was before the Internet) and reading books featuring 'alternatives' to the history I was taught from authors like Daniken, Hancock, and work done of the water erosion on the Sphinx. Google Earth was a boon to me. Suddenly I could see the world, any part of it, and what I've seen has been an enlightening adventure into an expansive history of our world.
We are not 2 or 3 thousand years old, as our ancient texts record. We are not the 6,000 years old, that the Bible suggests. Humankind, as we are today, physically speaking, are much much older, and our true history is a partially lost one. The bits and pieces of who we were over 12,000 years ago, are not few, but dating them accurately (because of post occupation) has been difficult. Which is why GT has been a treasure trove, it was buried, by those who found it. They were NOT its creators, they were its preservationists.
I began my endeavors into the fermenting arts, because I found it romantic. Growing a fruit, enough to make a batch big enough to share with friends and family, on land I tended, seemed to me the oldest thing that could be done to be considered civilized and a scientist. Fermenting is both an art and science, and producing a drink that is fun and tasty is a practice...meaning you don't usually get it right the first time, nor every time thereafter. But when you do, and your friends come over, and enjoy it...that's "Why we are here!" To sit with friends and loved ones, with a glass of good wine, and eat, drink, and share our thoughts...ahhhhhhh.
I am 42 now, a grad-student, awaiting entry into law school. I intern with a semi-retired probate judge, and my gpa is around 3.85. My BA is a double major- Criminal Justice & Legal Studies. As such, I have been taught to see both sides to an issue, even be able to argue for either side, with lots of research, fervor, and zeal.
As I started this post, I don't know everything, nor can I ever hope to.
Based on the evidence I've seen, like the video posted on page one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2095&v=tFlAFo78xoQ
I would argue there was a global civilization, before Columbus crossed the Atlantic.
I would also argue that there are no sky gods, but there are ancient advance earthlings.
Conversely, it would be difficult for me to deny the evidence found at GT of 40 gallon fermenters, as NOT being evidence for grain cultivation.
Additionally, dismissing ALL of the ancient flood myth-legends, AND the evidences I have seen using Google Earth...it would be impossible to ignore so much corroborating material...
The problem with trying to convince someone of anything is personal confirmation bias. They reached their position, just like I did, "IN THEIR HEAD"... They only looked at the best, most correct information they could garner, then they looked for evidence that supported that position. Changing it, is a matter of introducing new information...which isn't possible, because it if disagrees with their position, they'll find a way to dismiss or discredit it.
Michael Shermer did the skeptic community a dis-service by making this video. Because he was forced to address new evidence that contradicted his stance, and discuss it. He ended the exchange by saying Hancock was both well reasoned and well researched. I too found the evidence new and enlightening. Connecting the Scablands flood to Plato's tale of Atlantis 'fit' for me.
All that said, I can't be 100% sure I'm right. It's a best guess based on the information I have been subjected to, sought out, and experienced.
When I began my studies, beyond the indoctrination I received as a child, about the true nature and history of the world, I was shocked at what I found. Admittedly, I came from a german catholic upbringing, with a public school education. I was told (catholics don't read the Bible) that God made Adam out of clay, and Eve from one of his ribs. Reading the Bible, I found that it actually said, "Let us create Man in our image." That was quite different than the 'story' I learned in CCD (religion classes for catholics). I was told a myth, based on part of the Bible. However, even as a young child, that didn't make any sense...neither did Santa Claus. "Flying reindeer? Really, around the whole world to every kid in one night?!" The awe and wonder lasted about two years. My older cousin told me the truth, and helped me to find the gifts I would receive later that week.
The lesson to me was that adults lie. And the older I got, the more authority figures I saw lying to maintain power. Religions, governments, agencies...they all have an agenda, looking to prime us for their frame on the reality that made us, that we live in, that we are to be.
I am not financially well-endowed (for now), so investigating the truth of who and what we are, past and present, was a matter of public libraries (this was before the Internet) and reading books featuring 'alternatives' to the history I was taught from authors like Daniken, Hancock, and work done of the water erosion on the Sphinx. Google Earth was a boon to me. Suddenly I could see the world, any part of it, and what I've seen has been an enlightening adventure into an expansive history of our world.
We are not 2 or 3 thousand years old, as our ancient texts record. We are not the 6,000 years old, that the Bible suggests. Humankind, as we are today, physically speaking, are much much older, and our true history is a partially lost one. The bits and pieces of who we were over 12,000 years ago, are not few, but dating them accurately (because of post occupation) has been difficult. Which is why GT has been a treasure trove, it was buried, by those who found it. They were NOT its creators, they were its preservationists.
I began my endeavors into the fermenting arts, because I found it romantic. Growing a fruit, enough to make a batch big enough to share with friends and family, on land I tended, seemed to me the oldest thing that could be done to be considered civilized and a scientist. Fermenting is both an art and science, and producing a drink that is fun and tasty is a practice...meaning you don't usually get it right the first time, nor every time thereafter. But when you do, and your friends come over, and enjoy it...that's "Why we are here!" To sit with friends and loved ones, with a glass of good wine, and eat, drink, and share our thoughts...ahhhhhhh.
I am 42 now, a grad-student, awaiting entry into law school. I intern with a semi-retired probate judge, and my gpa is around 3.85. My BA is a double major- Criminal Justice & Legal Studies. As such, I have been taught to see both sides to an issue, even be able to argue for either side, with lots of research, fervor, and zeal.
As I started this post, I don't know everything, nor can I ever hope to.
Based on the evidence I've seen, like the video posted on page one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2095&v=tFlAFo78xoQ
I would argue there was a global civilization, before Columbus crossed the Atlantic.
I would also argue that there are no sky gods, but there are ancient advance earthlings.
Conversely, it would be difficult for me to deny the evidence found at GT of 40 gallon fermenters, as NOT being evidence for grain cultivation.
Additionally, dismissing ALL of the ancient flood myth-legends, AND the evidences I have seen using Google Earth...it would be impossible to ignore so much corroborating material...
The problem with trying to convince someone of anything is personal confirmation bias. They reached their position, just like I did, "IN THEIR HEAD"... They only looked at the best, most correct information they could garner, then they looked for evidence that supported that position. Changing it, is a matter of introducing new information...which isn't possible, because it if disagrees with their position, they'll find a way to dismiss or discredit it.
Michael Shermer did the skeptic community a dis-service by making this video. Because he was forced to address new evidence that contradicted his stance, and discuss it. He ended the exchange by saying Hancock was both well reasoned and well researched. I too found the evidence new and enlightening. Connecting the Scablands flood to Plato's tale of Atlantis 'fit' for me.
All that said, I can't be 100% sure I'm right. It's a best guess based on the information I have been subjected to, sought out, and experienced.
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