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Michael Brown Shooting

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The Central Scrutinizer said:
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True. If he hadn't assaulted the clerk, then the police would have "executed" a non-felon.
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There were no injuries to the store clerk so that also sounds like a misdemeanor.
Assault in the third degree in Missouri is a Class A misdemeanor except for assault that involves threatening another with immediate bodily injury and assault involving offensive or provocative contact (if the victim is not incapacitated). These two assaults are Class C misdemeanors. Link
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Skeptical Greg said:
Here you go:
Though not as well defined you can see he is holding stuff when he shoves the store guy..

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Thanks. So it's packs not a box.
 
Monketey Ghost said:
You don't imagine a potential witness seeing a teevee report presenting local authorities account on what took place would sway anyone's memory of what happened?
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Sure it could. But my point is that this narrative or any other narrative wouldn't sit in a hermetically sealed vault unless the police released an incident report. The story - true and false versions - is getting out one way or the other. In this day and age, I don't know how you can possibly keep a jury pool pure.

But by sitting on the incident report, I feel the police are fomenting suspicion in an already distrustful community. How long did the police allow the story that Brown was just walking around minding his business when he was stopped before they finally released information about the robbery? In the meantime, anger and resentment builds up that's pretty tough to roll back once it gets started.
 
Monketey Ghost said:
I know I'm still waiting on a cite for the Project Innocence assertion.
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Are you seriously implying Project Innocence didn't discover instances -- many instances -- where police have gotten suspects facing lesser charges to testify against suspects facing serious charges by promising leniency or using coercion? That Project Innocence didn't find this was a major factor in convicting people who later were proven to have been innocent?

That argument seems so ridiculous -- not to mention dishonest -- I'm not even going to be bothered discussing it. Sorry.
 
newyorkguy said:
Are you seriously implying Project Innocence didn't discover instances -- many instances -- where police have gotten suspects facing lesser charges to testify against suspects facing serious charges by promising leniency or using coercion? That Project Innocence didn't find this was a major factor in convicting people who later were proven to have been innocent?
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I know that the Internet is a magical place and all, but underlining words doesn't actually turn them into hyperlinks to supporting documents or corroborating evidence.
 
Honest question: has it been 100% established that the thief in the store CCTV is in fact Michael Brown?
 
Skeptical Greg said:
Here you go:

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Gogurt maybe?

Though not as well defined you can see he is holding stuff when he shoves the store guy..

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I bet it was candy bars to give to the neighborhood children.
 
newyorkguy said:
Probably everyone who has been arrested in that area since Saturday has been asked:

  • Detective: You see the shooting the other day?
  • Perp: Huh?
  • Detective: You want to help yourself out?
  • Perp: Huh?
  • Detective: You see the black kid charge the police car?
  • Perp: What black kid?
  • Detective: You want to help yourself out?
  • Perp: Oh! You mean...Yeah I was there. Sure was.
  • Detective: Okay. You help us we help you.
  • Perp: Yeah that brother was acting all crazy man.

:D
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newyorkguy said:
Are you seriously implying Project Innocence didn't discover instances -- many instances -- where police have gotten suspects facing lesser charges to testify against suspects facing serious charges by promising leniency or using coercion? That Project Innocence didn't find this was a major factor in convicting people who later were proven to have been innocent?

That argument seems so ridiculous -- not to mention dishonest -- I'm not even going to be bothered discussing it. Sorry.
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You posted a fictional conversation, starting with "Probably". You're trying to equate your credibility with the credibility of Project Innocence without citing a thing. So again, I ask: please cite the Project Innocence source.
 
LTC8K6 said:
BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
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That sounds like felony assault. Being that it was on a police officer Brown would be facing some serious charges. Brown would be looking at prison time.
 
newyorkguy said:
Are you seriously implying Project Innocence didn't discover instances -- many instances -- where police have gotten suspects facing lesser charges to testify against suspects facing serious charges by promising leniency or using coercion? That Project Innocence didn't find this was a major factor in convicting people who later were proven to have been innocent?

That argument seems so ridiculous -- not to mention dishonest -- I'm not even going to be bothered discussing it. Sorry.
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No doubt they did, Project Innocence does great work. Now all you have to do is provide some actual evidence they found police doing what you claimed they were doing to invent witnesses. Which should be easy because you're not the type of fella who makes things up on internet forums.
 
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