Skeptic Ginger
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That's not the supposed taunt, nor would one call a single curse word a taunt, one would call it a curse word or whatever one named it.":"
No, I don't see how it takes longer.
That's not the supposed taunt, nor would one call a single curse word a taunt, one would call it a curse word or whatever one named it.":"
No, I don't see how it takes longer.
Yes, I meant not relevant...Assume you meant relevant. And if Wilson knew that Brown and Johnson were possible suspects in a robbery, I don't see how you can think it's not relevant. It provides context, either way.
It doesn't look like a bracelet. It looks like two casings together and while that is also unlikely, so is the bracelet speculation.I think if you can show he had a bracelet/watch, and then he didn't. And there is an evidence marker near something that looks like said bracelet/watch which is otherwise unidentified...then you may have something worth discussing.
But for now, your right. No reason to speculate. We''l find out one way or another in time. But I know which guess I'm putting my money on ...
This is entirely correct. There's only one problem - the police have alleged that Brown tried to grab Wilson's gun, while it was still in the holster. And again, there's a huge chasm between Brown's acts in the store (namely, supposedly stealing some cigarellos, and pushing the sales clerk), and his alleged actions while walking down the street (trying to kill a cop!) I do not agree that the former action makes the latter behavior likely.
The police's official statements on this matter are all over the place.
and that's why, as I and many other people have said, it's important to see what Wilson said immediately after the shooting - we cannot draw anything definitive without his statement, and the blank report from the Ferguson PD is just putting them in a somewhat worse light than their known actions have.
I understand fully the desire to protect your identity - and that's why I asked in the manner I did. If you had told me "I'd rather not say" I'd understand.
However, your name/avatar suggest that you do not live in the US. And I suspect that the use of "thug" for black people is restricted to the US. That's all.
Is Dorian Johnson in federal protective custody?
Jim RobertsVerified account @nycjim 18h
Dorian Johnson, who was with #MikeBrown when he was shot, is in federal protective custody & fears for his life. http://wapo.st/1tpqYSa
I missed this earlier, and have not seen it mentioned, FWIW:
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/26/report-alleged-new-audio-of-michael-brown-shooting/
Twelve shell casings—all from police weapons—were recovered at the scene.
This is entirely correct. There's only one problem - the police have alleged that Brown tried to grab Wilson's gun, while it was still in the holster. And again, there's a huge chasm between Brown's acts in the store (namely, supposedly stealing some cigarellos, and pushing the sales clerk), and his alleged actions while walking down the street (trying to kill a cop!) I do not agree that the former action makes the latter behavior likely. [ . . . ]
They say 12 casings recovered.
That means, one from the car, and 10 on the audio. Either he only shot once at Brown as Brown fled, or the six shots of which at least some entered through the front occurred as Brown turned. [ . . . ]
How do we know he "committed a felony assault on a police officer"? I find it just as easy to believe that Wilson grabbed Brown by the shirt and drew his gun on him.
[ . . . ]The FPD have made several mistakes over this period of time, especially with regards to the protesters. Their actions were deplorable, and at times absolutely disgusting. I honestly do believe that they made the right move in handing the investigation off. We haven't seen more leaks and I don't believe we will until the grand jury makes their decision.
It doesn't look like a bracelet. It looks like two casings together and while that is also unlikely, so is the bracelet speculation.
And if Johnson was involved in the initial struggle with Wilson, why was he not charged?
I'm not confusing anything. The video did not need to be released at the time it was because of any legal reason. The feds specifically asked them not to release the video. I think they know the law about release of information requests. Rationalizing that it had nothing to do with Ferguson police trying to bias public opinion is an unsupportable conclusion.
Not to mention, how did the press even know about the robbery being connected to the shooting?
Re-read my post:...1+10= 12?
Point taken, Mumbles and I'm sorry to have been so bristly about the subject. Please accept my apologies.
It's not my contention Brown turned during the pause. Wilson paused when Brown turned.Brown could have turned around at any time. There is absolutely no reason for him to wait for the pause in recording.
Interviews with Johnson's lawyers do not give that impression.Isn't Johnson more or less in protective custody now?
Perhaps possible charges and details against him are being withheld, and may never go forward if he is involved in some kind of plea deal..
The feds asked Ferguson PD not to release it.That doesn't mean releasing the video was wrong. How many people were out there trying to play a "gentle giant" narrative before the video came out? The police have every right to defend themselves in the court of public opinion. I real bias is from people that don't want relevant information released.
Isn't Johnson more or less in protective custody now?
Brown could have turned around at any time. There is absolutely no reason for him to wait for the pause in recording.
Likely or not, the former action did take place and only barely 10 minutes before the shooting, correct me if I'm wrong. Between the robbery and Brown's death in the middle of the road we know there was some sort of confrontation with Wilson. What led Brown to defy the order to clear the roadway? A possible adrenaline rush from the robbery?
What on earth made Brown think he could escape a confrontation with an armed cop by running down the middle of a road?
And I explained to you the hypocrisy. Either the store video is part of the investigation of Brown's death and should not have been released or it is not relevant. You cannot have it both ways by claiming it is a separate crime that the investigation is completed. If that is true then it is not relative to the Brown shooting.
Michael Brown was never found delinquent of the juvenile equivalents of any Class A or B felony charges, and was not facing any at the time he died, a court official said this morning at a hearing on whether his juvenile records should be released.
The Post-Dispatch had filed a petition in St. Louis County Circuit Court to unseal any records about him in family court, if any existed.
Cynthia Harcourt, a lawyer for St. Louis County Juvenile Officer Kip Seeley, argued against releasing those records, but acknowledged that there were no convictions or active cases for the most serious types of felonies.
A Princeton University employee and marijuana legalization activist said Tuesday he has been told by his employer to choose between medical marijuana and his job.
Don DeZarn, 48, of East Windsor, said Princeton officials told him that he could not work in his job as senior operations manager of campus dining and use medical marijuana. DeZarn said he hasn't used medical marijuana while working, but had let university officials know about it if he ever needed to use it for an "emergency situation."
The U.S. Navy veteran said he is prescribed medical marijuana for inflammatory bowel disease and post-traumatic stress disorder. DeZarn said the "ultimatum" comes as a surprise to him. He is running as a New Jersey congressional candidate for the Legalize Marijuana Party.
Can you draw a gun with one hand?