Michael Avenatti thread

The Big Dog said:
He did nothing of the sort, Trump kicked his ass, and got him fired.

now the former special guest of the Iowa democrats is looking at hard time.
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Now that TBD is gone, I can admit that I was never much of a fan of Avenatti. Stormy Daniels was telling the truth, the NDA was worthless, and Trump's cover-up is its own mess. Avenatti happened to be the lawyer to handle that and it was, on balance, a good thing. However, that doesn't make Avenatti a good person.

That sort of nuance is difficult for some people to accept.
 
I said a while back that I would take anything Avenatti said as truth over what The PDJT says.

I no longer think that.
 
Loss Leader said:
Now that TBD is gone, I can admit that I was never much of a fan of Avenatti. Stormy Daniels was telling the truth, the NDA was worthless, and Trump's cover-up is its own mess. Avenatti happened to be the lawyer to handle that and it was, on balance, a good thing. However, that doesn't make Avenatti a good person.

That sort of nuance is difficult for some people to accept.
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I refuse to accept this. We must have only binary options. Either he was good or bad. And everything he did is just an extension of that. Any one who things otherwise is a bad person and should not be allowed to eat ice cream.
 
If the allegations are true, he is a total scumbag and should be disbarred as well as sent to prison.

Stealing money from clients!

Never mind the tax cheating and other allegations, but this guy is a real sociopath.

A shyster, a mountebank, a con-man. As bad or worse than Trump. To think that some people thought he should run for president.

There were signs that he was fishy, and did things without consulting his client first. He set up a legal defense fund for Daniels, without her knowledge, but he controlled it. He filed a lawsuit without asking her first, and it ended up backfiring. She was held liable for paying Trump's attorney fees. Not to mention that he used her as a way to propel himself into the spotlight.

But this is a whole new level of scum-baggery. He makes Saul Goodman look like a pillar of ethics by comparison.

Avenatti indicted on 36 charges of tax dodging, perjury, theft from clients

Avenatti stole millions of dollars from five clients and used a tangled web of shell companies and bank accounts to cover up the theft, the Santa Ana grand jury alleged in an indictment that prosecutors made public Thursday.

One of the clients, Geoffrey Ernest Johnson, was a mentally ill paraplegic on disability who won a $4-million settlement of a suit against Los Angeles County. The money was wired to Avenatti in January 2015, but he hid it from Johnson for years, according to the indictment.

In 2017, Avenatti received $2.75 million in proceeds from another client’s legal settlement, but concealed that too, the indictment says. The next day, he put $2.5 million of that money into the purchase of a private jet for Passport 420, LLC, a company he effectively owned, according to prosecutors.
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There. He stole from his mentally ill paraplegic client. Allegedly (but is there any doubt?). Of course, prosecutors must prove all of this, but there's a lot of smoke. His law firm is in receivership. Being sued by his former partner. He is such a blowhard too.

Lawyers are supposed to look out for their client's best interests, not to steal from them.
 
Puppycow said:
If the allegations are true, he is a total scumbag and should be disbarred as well as sent to prison.

Stealing money from clients!

Never mind the tax cheating and other allegations, but this guy is a real sociopath.

A shyster, a mountebank, a con-man. As bad or worse than Trump. To think that some people thought he should run for president.

There were signs that he was fishy, and did things without consulting his client first. He set up a legal defense fund for Daniels, without her knowledge, but he controlled it. He filed a lawsuit without asking her first, and it ended up backfiring. She was held liable for paying Trump's attorney fees. Not to mention that he used her as a way to propel himself into the spotlight.

But this is a whole new level of scum-baggery. He makes Saul Goodman look like a pillar of ethics by comparison.

Avenatti indicted on 36 charges of tax dodging, perjury, theft from clients



There. He stole from his mentally ill paraplegic client. Allegedly (but is there any doubt?). Of course, prosecutors must prove all of this, but there's a lot of smoke. His law firm is in receivership. Being sued by his former partner. He is such a blowhard too.

Lawyers are supposed to look out for their client's best interests, not to steal from them.
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It gets even better. Allegedly Avenatti intentionally failed to submit paperwork to the Social Security Administration for said client, because doing so would likely expose said embezzlement of funds. Since the paperwork was never filed, the disabled client stopped receiving SSI benefits he was entitled to. Poor client.
 
This thread has now outlived the purpose for which it was created. The punchline being that now Avenatti is actually interesting. But interesting in the same way that a crash at a car race is interesting.
 
He seemed too much like Trump to me and I really hoped he wouldn't run in 2020 when that nonsense was brought up
 
Are there any conspiracy theories about this? Anyone claiming Trump had the prosecutors trump up charges on Avenatti to keep him from running or something?
 
quadraginta said:
I don't think anyone cares enough about Avenatti to bother dreaming up conspiracy theories in his defense.
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I do think there was some brief hope of him being a good guy, I recall writing on this very forum something to effect of his being untrustworthy regarding his client with the rape accusation against Kavanaugh and getting some push back to the effect of no your wrong he's an upstanding citizen and lawyer.

Anyrate, you are probably right, that and it became pretty obvious early on that while he was going after Trump, which a fun to watch, he wasn't a good guy. So these charges are leveled and folks are mostly not that surprised.

Still, I'm surprised there are some random nuts on the internet trying to flog some sort of conspiracy out of it.
 
Loss Leader said:
Now that TBD is gone, I can admit that I was never much of a fan of Avenatti. Stormy Daniels was telling the truth, the NDA was worthless, and Trump's cover-up is its own mess. Avenatti happened to be the lawyer to handle that and it was, on balance, a good thing. However, that doesn't make Avenatti a good person.

That sort of nuance is difficult for some people to accept.
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This. Almost felled compelled to defend Avenatti ... just because TBD.


ahhell said:
I do think there was some brief hope of him being a good guy, I recall writing on this very forum something to effect of his being untrustworthy regarding his client with the rape accusation against Kavanaugh and getting some push back to the effect of no your wrong he's an upstanding citizen and lawyer.

Anyrate, you are probably right, that and it became pretty obvious early on that while he was going after Trump, which a fun to watch, he wasn't a good guy. So these charges are leveled and folks are mostly not that surprised.

Still, I'm surprised there are some random nuts on the internet trying to flog some sort of conspiracy out of it.
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IDK that I saw a lot of defense of him as a good guy ... he seemed like a decent attorney who knew how to play the same media game trump was playing, so that seemed like an excellent combination against trump.

Seems the problem is that when most of Avenattis supporters found out what a toolbox he is, the dropped him like a hot potato. Trumps supporters, not so much.
 
But he still deserves credit for damage he did to Trump. He's a sleezeball but he was the sleezeball to put a hole in Trump's armor. He needs to pay for what he did but that doesn't mean his hurting Trump was a bad thing.
 
Who would have guessed a year ago that both Cohen and Avenatti would be headed to prison? Also both betrayed their former clients. Kinda ironic, strange symmetry to this.
 
Puppycow said:
Who would have guessed a year ago that both Cohen and Avenatti would be headed to prison? Also both betrayed their former clients. Kinda ironic, strange symmetry to this.
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It's a grifter's paradise right now.
 
Craig4 said:
But he still deserves credit for damage he did to Trump. He's a sleezeball but he was the sleezeball to put a hole in Trump's armor. He needs to pay for what he did but that doesn't mean his hurting Trump was a bad thing.
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I keep seeing this claim repeated by you... And nowhere else. What exactly was the big win?
 
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