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[Merged] Immortality & Bayesian Statistics

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Slowvehicle said:
Does this mean Jabba's "Shroud" thread is going to go even more slowly?
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The answer to that is shrouded in mystery. Slowly is putting it mildly. Jabba's progress over there has been glacial.
 
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Aww, here I was hoping that this thread would be about some funny flaw a statistical analysis program or something. Maybe we should discuss the inability of bumblebees to fly while we wait?
 
Weak Kitten said:
Aww, here I was hoping that this thread would be about some funny flaw a statistical analysis program or something. Maybe we should discuss the inability of bumblebees to fly while we wait?
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Obviously, you missed the paper explaining that Bumblebees are natural hymenopteral zen masters, and do not fly so much as levitate in trance state...
Do try to keep up.
 
No, Jabba has provided absolute rock-solid proof of immortality. Reading the Shroud thread feels like eternity.

QED.
 
Jabba said:
- I think that I can essentially prove immortality using Bayesian statistics.
- If this belongs in a different thread, or has already been done, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll present my case here.
--- Jabba
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Jabba, don't worry about different threads. Just present your material. I think I remember advising you along these lines (more than once) in the Shroud discussion.
 
Jabba said:
- I think that I can essentially prove immortality using Bayesian statistics.
- If this belongs in a different thread, or has already been done, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll present my case here.
--- Jabba
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No you can't. And given your demonstrated lack of ability with statistics you would be incapable of doing so.

dafydd said:
What's the betting that it will involve fake bloodstains?
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:) Or a conspiracy between scientists and the RCC to hide the proof.

dafydd said:
Don't worry, he will be back to tell us that he will be telling us that he will be posting the proof, sometime. This is just to distract our attention from his failed shroud thread.
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This seems likely.

Slowvehicle said:
Does this mean Jabba's "Shroud" thread is going to go even more slowly?
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Just keep re-reading his older posts over and over again, it gives the same effect.
 
So, 14 hours since this thread was created, and Jabba still hasn't got round to posting the information that should have been in the OP.

I'll take 27 hours. Winner gets an internets.
 
"Certified Statistician"

Humots said:
The one at




You could start by answering the question I asked in the shroud thread:




If so, how do you get from that expression to the one in your argument:

P(NR|me & k) = P(me|NR)P(NR|k) / (P(me|NR)P(NR|k) + P(me|R)P(R|k))

Also, can you tell us a bit about being a certified Statistician? Like what courses are required, and what organization does the certifying?
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Humots,

- Thanks for that last question. The answer is easy, and is probably worth some merit. I started a Doctorate in Educational Psychology at NYU in 1969.
-The course has two areas of study: Child Development and Research Methods. We (Lauren (my wife) and I) couldn't afford to live in the "City" itself -- living instead in Jamaica Queens, from where I'd take the subway to class everyday. Being a country boy at heart , I got sick of the long, often rush hour, rides to and from Greenwich Village -- and having connections upstate, transferred to SUNY at Albany. Probably a bad idea.
- I finished all my course work -- and then some -- but flunked the essay portion of our comprehensives. I did fine on the two multiple choice tests -- getting the best score in our group (8 Doctoral students) in Research Methods. I could have taken the test again, but we had a three year old at home, and little money, and I had to drop out.
- In our Doctoral studies, we had to choose a "language" in which to specialize. The appropriate "languages" for our course were "Computers" and "Statistics." I chose Statistics, and ultimately received an actual certificate stating that I was, indeed, proficient in that field.
- Since that time, when I think warranted by a discussion, I tend to point out that I am actually a certified Statistician...
- I can't remember all of the different classes involved (and it would take me awhile to find my transcripts), but probably the two most advanced were Factor Analysis and Bayesian Statistics.

- So, th-th that's my story, and I'm s-s-s-stickin to it!

--- Jabba
 
Jabba said:
Humots,

- Thanks for that last question. The answer is easy, and is probably worth some merit. I started a Doctorate in Educational Psychology at NYU in 1969.
-The course has two areas of study: Child Development and Research Methods. We (Lauren (my wife) and I) couldn't afford to live in the "City" itself -- living instead in Jamaica Queens, from where I'd take the subway to class everyday. Being a country boy at heart , I got sick of the long, often rush hour, rides to and from Greenwich Village -- and having connections upstate, transferred to SUNY at Albany. Probably a bad idea.
- I finished all my course work -- and then some -- but flunked the essay portion of our comprehensives. I did fine on the two multiple choice tests -- getting the best score in our group (8 Doctoral students) in Research Methods. I could have taken the test again, but we had a three year old at home, and little money, and I had to drop out.
- In our Doctoral studies, we had to choose a "language" in which to specialize. The appropriate "languages" for our course were "Computers" and "Statistics." I chose Statistics, and ultimately received an actual certificate stating that I was, indeed, proficient in that field.
- Since that time, when I think warranted by a discussion, I tend to point out that I am actually a certified Statistician...
- I can't remember all of the different classes involved (and it would take me awhile to find my transcripts), but probably the two most advanced were Factor Analysis and Bayesian Statistics.

- So, th-th that's my story, and I'm s-s-s-stickin to it!

--- Jabba
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So when you state that you are a certified statistician what you actually mean is that once, long ago, whilst studying for a PhD that you never finished, you passed a university course in statistics for non mathematical research students, for which you got a certificate.

:nope:
 
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Jabba said:
Humots,

- Thanks for that last question. The answer is easy, and is probably worth some merit. I started a Doctorate in Educational Psychology at NYU in 1969.
-The course has two areas of study: Child Development and Research Methods. We (Lauren (my wife) and I) couldn't afford to live in the "City" itself -- living instead in Jamaica Queens, from where I'd take the subway to class everyday. Being a country boy at heart , I got sick of the long, often rush hour, rides to and from Greenwich Village -- and having connections upstate, transferred to SUNY at Albany. Probably a bad idea.
- I finished all my course work -- and then some -- but flunked the essay portion of our comprehensives. I did fine on the two multiple choice tests -- getting the best score in our group (8 Doctoral students) in Research Methods. I could have taken the test again, but we had a three year old at home, and little money, and I had to drop out.
- In our Doctoral studies, we had to choose a "language" in which to specialize. The appropriate "languages" for our course were "Computers" and "Statistics." I chose Statistics, and ultimately received an actual certificate stating that I was, indeed, proficient in that field.
- Since that time, when I think warranted by a discussion, I tend to point out that I am actually a certified Statistician...
- I can't remember all of the different classes involved (and it would take me awhile to find my transcripts), but probably the two most advanced were Factor Analysis and Bayesian Statistics.

- So, th-th that's my story, and I'm s-s-s-stickin to it!

--- Jabba
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So you are not a statistician. I missed the bit in your post about the proof of immortality. Will you be providing it, or are you just seeking attention yet again?
 
wollery said:
So when you state that you are a certified statistician what you actually mean is that once, long ago, whilst studying for a PhD that you never finished, you passed a university course in statistics for non mathematical research students, for which you got a certificate.

:nope:
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I was in almost exactly the same situation, except I completed my PhD in biochemistry and my language was French. I do not, however, view myself as a Certified French Person. In fact, I can barely read French now, and could never speak it well enough to converse with a real French person.
 
Giordano said:
I was in almost exactly the same situation, except I completed my PhD in biochemistry and my language was French. I do not, however, view myself as a Certified French Person. In fact, I can barely read French now, and could never speak it well enough to converse with a real French person.
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This is so sad. Just when you think it can't get worse, it does.
 
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Oh, yes.
Always.
I, for example, am a certified crystal healer.

wollery said:
So when you state that you are a certified statistician what you actually mean is that once, long ago, whilst studying for a PhD that you never finished, you passed a university course in statistics for non mathematical research students, for which you got a certificate.

:nope:
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ouch
 
Unbelievable! Jabba posts to this thread, and yet neglects to actually post the material which he should have put in the opening post (which was made nearly 24 hours ago).

Jabba, do you actually have any 'proof' of immortality, or was your OP just an exercise in yanking our collective chains?
 
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