Mechanisms of Remote Viewing

[TheERK]

Sorry, just reviewed the entire thread, but didn't find an answering to the addressing problem.

~~ Paul

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What I can never figure out is how the viewer addresses particular information in the Matrix, how he homes in on the thing he wants to view or the person whose mind he wants to read

I posted their claim of how they access information. How did you manage to miss this when you scanned the thread?

"I think I understand the claim enough to answer your question. Keep in mind that I am not claiming that it actually works--but here is the basic idea.

The targeter is the one who selects an event. This event is what will be RVed. He or she then assigns some sort of random 8 digit alphanumeric code to the event--this is called queuing the target, I think. Now, the claim is that by performing this task, a connection is made in the matrix. That is, if we are to believe that there really exists some sort of universal information database of everything that has ever happened, then it doesn't seem *too* unreasonable that performing this task will obviously add new information to such a matrix.

So, the RVer is given the 8 digit code, and once his or her mind supposively accesses the matrix, it can use the known code to find whatever it is associated with. So, I suppose the code is how it is addressed. I hope this answers your question."

Eric

 

[Yahzi]

So maybe our physics also aren't perfect?

I'm so sick of this vibration crap.

Look, I build an instrument that can tell you if a single molecule is out of place. The guy down the hall makes one that counts photons - one at a time. That's right, it counts individual photons.

I sold one of my instruments to the gravity wave project. They are having a bit of trouble with vibrations - their instruments go all willy when the loggers 50 miles away cut down a tree. Yes, their instrument is that sensitive (look up the LIGO project).

Despite the incredible sensitivity of all these instruments, not once have we ever measured any of these vibrations the woo-woos go on about. And even if we could, who would care? It's not like your brain can tell when an atom is out of place, or your eyes can see individual photons. You can't feel trees being cut down at 50 miles. The human body is simply not that sensitive. Even if I right now randomly caused 1,000 molecules in your head to atomically explode like Hiroshima... you wouldn't notice.

So how could you notice anything smaller?

 

[Darat]

I'm so sick of this vibration crap.

...snip...

So how could you notice anything smaller?

Yahzi - you could make yourself a fortune you know, why bother with all these unnatural electronic gadgets?

Just hand over $999.99 to PSITECH and you'll soon be able to count those photons one by one by merely wishing on a star (I think that's the technical explanation for RV).

All answers can be found in the Matrix.

(Saying that I'm not having much luck finding my Granddad’s buried fortune even though I've got every special edition of the DVD!)

 

[athon]

OK, I'll buy the 'vibration' theory for now.

What I'm attempting to do here is map out the logic used, primarily because I would like to see where speculation stops for a believer and the 'questions' kick in for a skeptic. In other words, do believers truly stop at a certain point and 'just accept' the rest.

So, in terms of vibrations that can be detected and quantified using standard instruments - what I want to know now is, through what biochemical mechanisms can we

a) sense such vibrations
b) quantify and qualify them
c) focus and screen them

Please, don't use the old 'we used to believe...and theories were once strange' analogies. Mysticism and science work in very different ways - in science, you don't stop asking questions.

So the ultimate question in the end will be 'do we throw out all the textbooks, or just modify them?' If we just modify, what do we change?

Anybody?

Athon

 

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

ERK said:

The targeter is the one who selects an event. This event is what will be RVed. He or she then assigns some sort of random 8 digit alphanumeric code to the event--this is called queuing the target, I think. Now, the claim is that by performing this task, a connection is made in the matrix. That is, if we are to believe that there really exists some sort of universal information database of everything that has ever happened, then it doesn't seem *too* unreasonable that performing this task will obviously add new information to such a matrix.

So, the RVer is given the 8 digit code, and once his or her mind supposively accesses the matrix, it can use the known code to find whatever it is associated with. So, I suppose the code is how it is addressed. I hope this answers your question."

Ah yes, I remember that weirdness now. But it still doesn't explain it. How does my mind find that 8-digit number in the Matrix? And why doesn't it find other occurences of that 8-digit number instead?

~~Paul

 

[Darat]

ERK said:
Ah yes, I remember that weirdness now. But it still doesn't explain it. How does my mind find that 8-digit number in the Matrix? And why doesn't it find other occurences of that 8-digit number instead?

~~Paul

psst... hint Paul, drop logic, drop rationality, drop the dead donkey and it will all make sense.....

 

[TheERK]

ERK said:
Ah yes, I remember that weirdness now. But it still doesn't explain it. How does my mind find that 8-digit number in the Matrix? And why doesn't it find other occurences of that 8-digit number instead?

~~Paul

It explains their method, which is what I thought you were asking about. Of course it doesn't really explain how it works: it just asserts that the brain has some sort of mechanism for doing that. Anyway, who really cares? Until there's some evidence that it actually works, not me.

 

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

ERK, are you telling me that you can't view the object on top of my monitor? I'm shocked!

~~ Paul

 

[Charlie in Dayton]

...(surely RV advocates aren't prompting us to throw out all of the textbooks on physics, chemistry and biology?)...

You learn quickly, grasshopper...

 

[T'ai Chi]

ERK, are you telling me that you can't view the object on top of my monitor? I'm shocked!
~~ Paul

Is it from the early 50's? How long did it take you to build?

 

[athon]

psst... hint Paul, drop logic, drop rationality, drop the dead donkey and it will all make sense.....

Actually this is where the paranormal gets interesting. It mightn't imply reality, but it's a great exercise in scientific thought. It prompts you to continue searching an idea until you've constructed a pseudo-reality. Great for sf writing.

Athon