"Master Race" - A Term Not Used By The Nazis

[theprestige]

During world war 2 the US armed forces were segregated according to race and in several states it was against the law for a white to marry a black so where do Americans get off with their holier than thou attitude?

Implicit in this tu quoque is the admission that the OP was wrong.

 

[timhau]

It's because CNN is told what to do by the Jews, silly!

So is everyone else!

I live in Israel. Here, even Jews are told what to do by other Jews, their bosses.

Scary, huh?

Oh my FSM, it's Jews all the way up!

 

[Vic Vega]

During world war 2 the US armed forces were segregated according to race and in several states it was against the law for a white to marry a black so where do Americans get off with their holier than thou attitude?

Wow! You actually came back!

So will you admit that in your OP you were absolutely incorrect?

 

[theprestige]

So will you admit that in your OP you were absolutely incorrect?

He already did. His "the Americans did it too!" post makes no sense unless he first assumes that the Nazis did it.

 

[Horatius]

Hey, just how many hands do you have, anyway? I don't think the Nazis would approve of people with more than two hands.

My god. The Nazis were Moties!

 

[Galileo]

German is not a race, it is an ethnic group,

Jew is not a race, it is a religion.

Communist is not a race, it is a political party.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

During world war 2 the US armed forces were segregated according to race and in several states it was against the law for a white to marry a black so where do Americans get off with their holier than thou attitude?

And the German army was desegregated?

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Implicit in this tu quoque is the admission that the OP was wrong.

He already did. His "the Americans did it too!" post makes no sense unless he first assumes that the Nazis did it.

QFT. Well said.

However, garethdjb still owns this thread.

Mondial, have you read post #5?

 

[bruto]

Not all Nazis spoke German.

Here is a bit from the English translation of Mein Kampf which was officially sanctioned by the Nazi party (James Murphy, translator):

We all feel that in the distant future many may be faced with problems
which can be solved only by a superior race of human beings, a race destined to become master of all the other peoples and which will have
at its disposal the means and resources of the whole world.

Close enough, I think.

 

[theprestige]

German is not a race, it is an ethnic group,

Jew is not a race, it is a religion.

Communist is not a race, it is a political party.

And yet, despite all this semantic variety, the Nazis seemed to have no trouble at all discriminating against people on an epic scale.

 

[Pinkymcfatfat]

My great-grandfathers family were Jews, but they were also Germans. Germans who were tall with blond hair and blue eyes.

 

[SimonD]

This article by Carlos Porter alleges that the original national socialists didn't use the words master race and that it was an invention of their enemies - namely Jews and communists

Hooray for the enemies of Nazism...

 

[dudalb]

During world war 2 the US armed forces were segregated according to race and in several states it was against the law for a white to marry a black so where do Americans get off with their holier than thou attitude?

That is one hell of a lame tu quoque.

 

[Cleon]

During world war 2 the US armed forces were segregated according to race and in several states it was against the law for a white to marry a black so where do Americans get off with their holier than thou attitude?

Auschwitz
Treblinka
Sobibor
Belzec
Chelmno
Majdanek


That's where.

 

[dudalb]

Auschwitz
Treblinka
Sobibor
Belzec
Chelmno
Majdanek


That's where.

This is called "Shooting Fish In A Barrel", folks.

 

[Rasmus]

Auschwitz
Treblinka
Sobibor
Belzec
Chelmno
Majdanek


That's where.

And in case that didn't drive home the point:

Here:

 

[Soapy Sam]

The English term "Master Race" is irredeemably associated with Nazi Germany.
The word "Master" - especially to the American ear - is inextricably linked with "slave" - we even see it in computer hardware.
"Master" , in the 1930s in UK English, had more positive overtones- A highly skilled or learned person, a teacher, one in loco parentis.
My German was never great and these days is very rusty, but I would not translate "Herrenvolk" from that passage as "master race" - at least not now, in 2010. I might have done in 1930.
There is an implication of paternalist nobility in the original, which we, knowing what happened, are quite unable to endorse.
If I had been an honest translator- ie one trying to convey the writer's apparent intent- I should have said " A noble people", "A people destined to rule" or some thing similar- implying the same sort of obligation to rule which Kipling referred to as the "White man's burden". Manifest Destiny, in other words. It was a common idea at the time and in far more lands than Germany. The notion is rather alien in our latterday world, but perhaps not so alien as it ought to be.

 

[dudalb]

Just confirms my low opinion of Semantic based arguments....

 

[Galileo]

The Jews said they were the chosen people.

Too bad they were chosen by Hitler as well.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Just confirms my low opinion of Semantic based arguments....

Great. So now you're anti-Semantic, too?