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Massive Liberal Failure on Race Issues

Do you plan to ever return to the Kesha Rogers campaign thread and tell us more about those racist Democrats?
 
Articles like that remind me how much I hate white liberals (the real racists). Nevertheless, I hate black liberals even more.
 
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Is there no rule here that says you can't start a thread with an opening post that contains only a link?
 
Well, if he had actually read the articles, he may not have posted them. The author is clearly not charitable toward the Republican Party on the issue of race.
 
I read the first article and it is about the failure of integration in school.
My two cents: I think racism is not the main issue to be fought today. I'm not saying it isn't a problem, I'm saying that it is more of a symptom than a cause. The real issue is good old fashioned class warfare in the Marxist sense.
I would claim the reason that white parents do not want to enroll their children in inner city public schools is NOT racism. They don't care if their child sits in a class room full of well behaved black children from wealthy families, however they don't want to see it in a room full of unruly gang bangers with one leg in the drug business. The underlying problem is class, not race.
They want their children to succeed in this capitalist economic system (and who can blame them?) and in order to achieve that, they need to be educated in middle or upper class schools, in a middle or upper class peer group. Any attempt to change this status quo will be met with political resistance by these parents and probably succesfully, since they have the resources and influence to do so.
We have a similar situation in Germany, but without the clear white/black divide.
I don't believe this can be fixed without fundamental reform or collapse of the economic system.
 
maxpower1227 said:
Well, if he had actually read the articles, he may not have posted them. The author is clearly not charitable toward the Republican Party on the issue of race.
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My parents were both die-hard New Deal Democrats. My mother was actually a delegate in that 68 convention in Chicago which nominated Hubert Humphrey to run against Nixon. I was supposed to have stayed brainwashed for life but it didn't take, it took about six or seven years of living in the real world after college to think my way out of it. I voted for Reagan in 1980 because I couldn't stand the racism and it was clear that the nation would not survive another four years of a Carter economy.

At that time I still thought that the dems had made some sort of a wrong turn or something and might yet find their way out of it, but it never happened. I never really started hating democrats until those Clarence Thomas hearings. The other big thing aside from racism of course is the Gaea worship and Malthusianism, and the "climate change(TM)" which those fools are trying to use to beat the world into submission and slavery. It adds up to a package of pretty nearly pure evil.

I've LOOKED for ways to love the GOP and I've never found one but I don't get anything like this absolute sense of LOATHING from Republicans. Aside from the oil/banking wing of the GOP, whatever's left of that, Republicans are just normal people trying to make do.
 
So, the massive liberal failure is that in the face of 60 years of constant conservative obstructionism, they have not done enough to help racial relations get better. Got it.

I have a crazy suggestion.

When attacking a large and complicated task it is a good idea to have a wide range of people working on a problem - both conservative and liberal minded. Keep a common long term goal in sight, work together, struggle, compromise, and sacrifice some cherished ideals in order to make progress toward the goal.

And so the blame naturally falls to the people actually trying to do something about it. Because doing nothing and being a party of NO requires no real leadership, or follower-ship for that matter.

If conservative politicians and judges are allowed to end affirmative action for the wrong reasons—a very real and immediate possibility—it’s safe to say that race relations in our great land will not improve. The onus falls on liberals to end it for the right reasons and to use that opportunity to replace it with something meaningful. Otherwise the status quo is never going to change, and America will keep on wandering in circles well short of the Promised Land.
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icebear said:
I've LOOKED for ways to love the GOP and I've never found one but I don't get anything like this absolute sense of LOATHING from Republicans. Aside from the oil/banking wing of the GOP, whatever's left of that, Republicans are just normal people trying to make do.
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I can fix that...



Huelskamp is the very definition of loathing. This is actually pretty tame compared to some things in his newsletters. The tweets are the worst part... not so much the interview. His political instincts are (ever so) slightly better when talking in person. Unfortunately, this man is actually my representative in the House.

I really have a hard time seeing that anyone could even take this position.
 
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Ts4EVER said:
The real issue is good old fashioned class warfare in the Marxist sense.....
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That may be A problem, but it's not really even a terribly big one given present circumstances.

The U.S. is on the ragged edge of an outright race war at present and the government of the past five years has made matters much worse than they might be. A real USAG would have long since come down like a ton of bricks on the perpetrators of the present grief and the fact that Eric Holder HASN'T come down like a ton of bricks is basically a form of racism.

Try reading some of this stuff:

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/black-attackers-leave-trail-of-beatings-vandalism/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/black-mobs-terrorize-victorias-secret-shoppers/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/white-girl-im-tired-of-being-looked-at-like-prey/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/knockout-game-fueled-by-holder-effect/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/killers-family-to-victims-kin-we-hate-you/

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(Editor’s note: Colin Flaherty has done more reporting than any other journalist on what appears to be a nationwide trend of skyrocketing black-on-white crime, violence and abuse. WND features these reports to counterbalance the virtual blackout by the rest of the media due to their concerns that reporting such incidents would be inflammatory or even racist. WND considers it racist not to report racial abuse solely because of the skin color of the perpetrators or victims.) Videos linked or embedded may contain foul language and violence.
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Then you get Barrack Obama claiming if he had a son, the son would look like this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PxlNJy8Ed...8/SPe38HjL2Ys/s400/trayvon_martin_twitter.jpg

Most normal people would have themselves fixed if they thought they were going to have children who looked like Trayvon Martin. That entire episode amounted to racism and the politics of division on the part of Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson et. al. Ask yourself if you could picture Ike or JFK ever injecting themselves into something like that and the answer is obvious enough.

The Obama administration has set race relations in America back several decades and, again, indications are that we're on the cusp of some sort of a war if something doesn't change. Moreover, mainstream media efforts to hide this stuff are falling away in an INTERNET age. Aside from the efforts of WorldnetDaily, others are compiling lists of the grief and you might want to look at a few of these to grasp the scope of the problem. The thread on the subject on the Able2know forum finally broke the forum software's pointer system and had to be divided.
 
icebear said:
That may be A problem, but it's not really even a terribly big one given present circumstances.

The U.S. is on the ragged edge of an outright race war at present.... (snip)
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Well... except for the fact that there's a lot of white people in this country that don't agree with you (including myself). Do you really think it's worse than the good ol' days of the L.A. Riots?
 
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maxpower1227 said:
Do you plan to ever return to the Kesha Rogers campaign thread and tell us more about those racist Democrats?
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Actually, and you might have noticed this if you'd looked at the link to Rogers' campoaign website, Kesha Rogers is more or less black and, being a member of the LaRouche group, she would presumably have no use for racism of any sort.

Her winning the primary for that US senate seat would amount to a setback for racism within the dem party.
 
icebear said:
The U.S. is on the ragged edge of an outright race war at present and the government of the past five years has made matters much worse than they might be.
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How come nobody else sees this coming, aside from the folks who are blatantly racist and want one?

icebear said:
A real USAG would have long since come down like a ton of bricks on the perpetrators of the present grief and the fact that Eric Holder HASN'T come down like a ton of bricks is basically a form of racism.

Try reading some of this stuff:

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/black-attackers-leave-trail-of-beatings-vandalism/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/black-mobs-terrorize-victorias-secret-shoppers/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/white-girl-im-tired-of-being-looked-at-like-prey/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/knockout-game-fueled-by-holder-effect/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/killers-family-to-victims-kin-we-hate-you/

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Uh... it's world net daily. They have the same credibility to most people as an augury done on chicken entrails. Enough said.

icebear said:
Then you get Barrack Obama claiming if he had a son, the son would look like this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PxlNJy8Ed...8/SPe38HjL2Ys/s400/trayvon_martin_twitter.jpg

Most normal people would have themselves fixed if they thought they were going to have children who looked like Trayvon Martin.
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That says far, far, FAR more about you and your view of the world than it does about President Obama. I think that you actually said this is shameful. Your parents have obviously neglected your upbringing. I am ashamed for all three of you.

icebear said:
That entire episode amounted to racism and the politics of division on the part of Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson et. al. Ask yourself if you could picture Ike or JFK ever injecting themselves into something like that and the answer is obvious enough.
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The amount of projecting you are doing here is amazing.

icebear said:
The Obama administration has set race relations in America back several decades and, again, indications are that we're on the cusp of some sort of a war if something doesn't change.
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No, the only ones who ever seem to be worried about any sort of race war are the ones who WANT one. You know... the ignorant bigots. The rest of us are getting along fine. And they hate that. That's why the bigots are getting more and more shrill. They're terrified of being forgotten about. That's why they're being so noisy.

icebear said:
Moreover, mainstream media efforts to hide this stuff are falling away in an INTERNET age. Aside from the efforts of WorldnetDaily, others are compiling lists of the grief and you might want to look at a few of these to grasp the scope of the problem. The thread on the subject on the Able2know forum finally broke the forum software's pointer system and had to be divided.
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It's a standard right-winger-plus-bigot tactic to project. You know... to accuse others of doing the thing they're guilty of, in order to obfuscate the issue and to protect themselves. The only ones who give that sort of claim any credence are the right-winger-plus-bigot types. Note that anyone not in that tiny, insignificant group merely roll their eyes at such claims.
 
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It seems to me that the views expressed in the first article have little to do with those in the wnd links.
 
We Republicans are much more respectful of Blacks than Democrats, yet the Blacks still vote heavily Democratic. That just proves how stupid Blacks are. Um... wait...
 
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