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Major GOPer Issa calls for Special Prosecutor!!!!!

quadraginta said:
Obviously Issa is just another RINO lackey of the leftists.

He should be drummed out of the party. All this talk of investigations is just an attempt to distract from this pressing need.
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Not that Issa is a RINO by any means, but there was mention tonight on MSNBC that Issa was facing a tough reelection is his becoming more purple CA district.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
We didn't say cops. We said prosecutors.


As for if a prosecutor can investigate where a crime is neither alleged nor suspected

http://www.americanbar.org/publicat..._archive/crimjust_standards_pfunc_blkold.html

PART III.
INVESTIGATION FOR PROSECUTION DECISION

Standard 3-3.1 Investigative Function of Prosecutor

(a) A prosecutor ordinarily relies on police and other investigative agencies for investigation of alleged criminal acts, but the prosecutor has an affirmative responsibility to investigate suspected illegal activity when it is not adequately dealt with by other agencies
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You do know you just contradicted your own premise, right?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You do know you just contradicted your own premise, right?
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You left off the part they are allowed to investigate. "Suspected illegal activity." They cannot investigate situations where they do not suspect illegal activity. They can't go around asking if you committed a crime today.
 
BobTheCoward said:
You left off the part they are allowed to investigate. "Suspected illegal activity." They cannot investigate situations where they do not suspect illegal activity. They can't go around asking if you committed a crime today.
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:rolleyes:

Not only is nothing of the sort in your quote, you are denying again any illegal activity is suspected. There is a transcript in the hands of a US intelligence agency between Flynn and the Russian ambassador that led to Flynn's resignation.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
If no one is presenting evidence of a crime has occurred, then there isn't any evidence out there. I'm not going to pretend there is.
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If nothing else, maybe we should investigate just so we learn exactly what's going on. That might, you know, shake people's confidence in a president who may be way too close to Putin for comfort.
 
thaiboxerken said:
It is suspected that there is illegal activity that happened during, and after, the campaign.
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A) that is up for debate.

B) this is part of a sub thread where philum was specifically arguing that prosecutors can investigate even if a crime is not suspected (#45 was the last post on the subject). Whether a crime is suspected in the real life scenario in the larger thread is irrelevant to this sub thread.
 
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Argumemnon said:
If nothing else, maybe we should investigate just so we learn exactly what's going on. That might, you know, shake people's confidence in a president who may be way too close to Putin for comfort.
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I agree. I'm saying that is something Congress should do. I am very opposed to having a prosecuting attorney sent after Americans "just so we learn exactly what is going on."
 
I see the Trump allies are making the rounds on the news shows denying there is any evidence of anything (ignoring the Flynn resignation), building straw men that Trump is not doing XYZ in Russia's favor, and blaming the fake news.

And of course the obvious question is, if there is nothing there, why not have an investigation to settle the matter?
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
I see the Trump allies are making the rounds on the news shows denying there is any evidence of anything (ignoring the Flynn resignation), building straw men that Trump is not doing XYZ in Russia's favor, and blaming the fake news.

And of course the obvious question is, if there is nothing there, why not have an investigation to settle the matter?
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The best people to investigate the matter are those who work for Trump and his allies, right?
 
Intelligence Committee ranking member Schiff (D) is holding a news conference now that interrupted Spicer's press briefing.

A adult in the room for sure, he's articulating the situation very effectively. An investigation at this point will be near impossible to stop.


I notice they are still protecting Pence, as if he was out of the loop, Flynn lied to Pence, etc. I'm not buying it. Surely they will find others in the circle, not just Flynn were involved. The elephant in the room is why are they not claiming Trump was out of the loop as well? And if not, why no mention of what Trump may or may not have communicated to Pence and why or why not?
 
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BobTheCoward said:
If it doesn't meet the minimum threshold for a criminal investigation, than that is using the department of Justice to harass Americans.
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How do you know it doesn't meet the minimum? How do you know that a criminal investigation isn't underway?
 
Spindrift said:
How do you know it doesn't meet the minimum? How do you know that a criminal investigation isn't underway?
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Please articulate a plausible scenario in which a crime has been committed by somebody in Trump's administration or campaign with respect to the so-called Russian interference in the election.
 
Spindrift said:
How do you know it doesn't meet the minimum? How do you know that a criminal investigation isn't underway?
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A good chunk of this thread has been a discussion if a prosecutor can investigate something if there isn't suspicion of a crime (general "getting to the bottom of this").
 
BobTheCoward said:
A good chunk of this thread has been a discussion if a prosecutor can investigate something if there isn't suspicion of a crime (general "getting to the bottom of this").
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A prosecutor in this case is closer to a Grand Jury Investigation, which deterimains if a crime had been commited.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Please articulate a plausible scenario in which a crime has been committed by somebody in Trump's administration or campaign with respect to the so-called Russian interference in the election.
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I don't have access to secret intel so I don't know. Maybe the people that do should be allowed to do their job.
 
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