Ed Madeleine McCann Mystery

truethat said:
I meant you can't leave an awake three year old in a room alone without the potential of something going wrong. Even if she was sleeping when they left the hotel room, there was a chance she could have woken after they left. This is what leads me to believe they gave her something to make her sleep. Then they wouldn't worry she'd wake up.

People make mistakes like this all the time. But for an entire table of parents to sit there acting like it was no big deal is really bizarre IMO. I think they all know she was given something to help her sleep. To me it's the only logical conclusion.
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Think about what you're saying here, that party were made up of well educated professionals, doctors surgeons etc. Firstly, are you suggesting that if McCanns had given Maddie something to knock her out for an entire evening they would have shared that with the others? And if they did, they then asked everyone else in the party to put their careers on the line and possibly face imprisonment for being complicit in concealing manslaughter. I would love to have been there when they all agreed to that!
 
OMG I am NOT saying, for the last time I am NOT SAYING THEY OVERDOSED HER. I'm saying they gave her a sedative to help her sleep. (Or whatever the correct term would be for the drug)

Why it is so hard for you to understand the difference???? I give up.
 
I don't know if they shared it with the others, to me its irrelevant. I have no issues with the other members who didn't have kids. The frequent checking of the kids from other members can be explained by the fact the kids had woken up before and been crying for an hour.
 
truethat said:
OMG I am NOT saying, for the last time I am NOT SAYING THEY OVERDOSED HER. I'm saying they gave her a sedative to help her sleep. (Or whatever the correct term would be for the drug)

Why it is so hard for you to understand the difference???? I give up.
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I don't think hes saying they overdosed her, hes talking about telling your friends you are going to sedate your kids so you can go out drinking in peace.
 
Um NO unless you completely skip over their use of the word MANSLAUGHTER.


Seriously, what is UP with people not reading. The word is right there. Reread the post. How would it be manslaughter unless she died??/
 
truethat said:
OMG I am NOT saying, for the last time I am NOT SAYING THEY OVERDOSED HER. I'm saying they gave her a sedative to help her sleep. (Or whatever the correct term would be for the drug)

Why it is so hard for you to understand the difference???? I give up.
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Okay so your theory is that Maddie was kidnapped whilst drugged? But why would they tell the others? And they've still got to get the agreement of the entire party keep quiet at the risk of being struck-off at the very least if found out.
 
I don't think they necessarily "told them" but it was understood. Would any parent on here go hang out for Tapas with friends knowing they'd left their kids alone in the room?
 
truethat said:
I don't think they necessarily "told them" but it was understood. Would any parent on here go hang out for Tapas with friends knowing they'd left their kids alone in the room?[/QUOTE]

Am I right in inferring from this that you think they were all regularly sedating their children?
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I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past them. But again, I asked a straightforward question. If you and your friends were out and your friends said "Hey don't worry I left the kids back in the room alone, pass the Tapas" are you saying it wouldn't bother you?

But if the friend said "Don't worry we gave her something to sleep and the twins never wake up, we'll go back and check every few" wouldn't that seem better?


I tend to look at things in details that most people completely ignore. It's very strange IMO that none of the other friends told them that it was not safe to leave them alone.
 
truethat said:
I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past them. But again, I asked a straightforward question. If you and your friends were out and your friends said "Hey don't worry I left the kids back in the room alone, pass the Tapas" are you saying it wouldn't bother you?

But if the friend said "Don't worry we gave her something to sleep and the twins never wake up, we'll go back and check every few" wouldn't that seem better?

I tend to look at things in details that most people completely ignore. It's very strange IMO that none of the other friends told them that it was not safe to leave them alone
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But all the friends were leaving their children, that's why they were taking turns to check.
I just think if you're saying that they all knew, it suggests that, (given they all had children in the same vulnerable position), there was a group agreement that occaisionally it's okay to sedate the children. However as you've pointed out Maddy was a vocal child and it seems inconsistent that they would sedate her one night and not the next.
 
The Third Man said:
But all the friends were leaving their children, that's why they were taking turns to check.



I just think if you're saying that they all knew, it suggests that, (given they all had children in the same vulnerable position), there was a group agreement that occaisionally it's okay to sedate the children. However as you've pointed out Maddy was a vocal child and it seems inconsistent that they would sedate her one night and not the next.
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I don't think either parent was involved. I don't think a marriage could survive it. When you think one parent would most likely be at fault... I don't think the other parent could stay supportive for so long.

I hope they find out what happened.
 
One hell of a lot of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam going on here. I've still not seen a convincing refutation of the Met's timeline. Just vague and meaningless comments about the McCanns looking suspicious. They, along with their daughter, are victims unless it is proven they were involved. Which it hasn't been.

This thread is in exactly the right section of the forum.
 
I don't think they look suspicious at all. Quite the opposite actually.
 
Unfortnately the Met revised timeline means there is still a lot of time in which a young girl could leave the apartment looking for her parents and find trouble or trouble could find her. But if bogus charity workers or suspicious men were making an indepth plan days earlier as crimewatch suggests I wonder why. To what end? Why that girl? Or more precisely it makes me wonder what has been withheld. Sorry for the useless speculation.u
 
truethat said:
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I don't really know what you mean here, are you asking me to provide evidence?
If so of what, that the other members of the party had children and that they were attending to them?
If so I think that's on the official record, they've all signed statements to that effect, in addition I think the staff at the tapas bar have all made statements supporting this version of events.
 
One hell of a lot of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam going on here. I've still not seen a convincing refutation of the Met's timeline. Just vague and meaningless comments about the McCanns looking suspicious. They, along with their daughter, are victims unless it is proven they were involved. Which it hasn't been.

This thread is in exactly the right section of the forum.
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From who? I've never once stated that me viewing them as suspicious as evidence for guilt in disposing of her body. I do dislike them for leaving their kids unattended at night in an unlocked apartment while they went off drinking.

Whats kind of annoying is how me talking about how their stories changed from the door being locked to being opened which there is evidence for, as you can view their hand written timeline submitted to the PJ, is dismissed as well they were in shock they could have been mistaken because they were worried about their daughter.

However when someone comes in and says, I think they are innocent, because a marriage couldn't survive that if they are lying. No one has a problem with it.

Why do people have such a problem with viewing their behavior as suspicious? We are all entitled to our opinion, ive stated my opinion for finding them suspicious you might not agree, fine. However its not an argument from ignorance because you don't happen to agree with my point of view.
 
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