Cont: Luton Airport Car Park Fire part II

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Steve said:
Looks like Vixen herself is the author and source. You yes, of course she checked and verified herself as the source.
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Do you have any evidence that Vixen is the author? It's entirely possible that, having found it somewhere on the internet, she thinks that it's a genuine press release.
 
Mojo said:
Do you have any evidence that Vixen is the author? It's entirely possible that, having found it somewhere on the internet, she thinks that it's a genuine press release.
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It's not quoted, not linked, and has a very familiar prose style. It is definitely not a press release, but I concede that some very stupid person could have written it and posted it online.
 
Dabop said:
Looks ok to me...
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Not a fan of the print on the fabric mind you- looks like the wallpaper at my nans old house before she passed on lol
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very 1950's
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Absolutely. Awful. However I no longer generally use London buses.
 
zooterkin said:
No, that's a stretch. It's 70s style innuendo.
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Her idea of Britain seems to be derived from equal parts of Ealing Comedy and Carry On.

ETA: I'm not sure where the deference to authority comes from though.
 
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Vixen said:
PRESS RELEASE

From: 10 Downing Street

SUBJECT: The Fire at Luton Airport Car Park

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Dear British voter

Rishi here. Just to reassure you that I am continuing to deliver on my priorities. You may be wondering why we have not yet released the specific details of the vehicle that caused the Luton Airport car park fire. This is because it would be most unfair to pinpoint a Jaguar Land Rover vehicle as the culprit before the investigation is complete. But it was definitely a diesel-fuelled car. That is all you need to know.

From a recent clip of my good self at a petrol station, wherein I do not appear to know where to stick the nozzle or how to undo the cap of the Kia, nor have a clue how to pay for it with my credit card, I do have a fleet of top range JLR Land Rovers and RAF and private helicopters to chauffeur me to places. As you know, I was parachuted into No.10 by my Etonian friend, David Cameron, who was introduced to me by my wife’s good friend, PM Narendra Modi in India, as her father owns Infosys and knows the awfully nice Mr. Tata. In fairness to Mr. Tata, we cannot allow idle gossip about JLR. David is from the same Bullingdon Club as my predecessor, whose name shall not pass my lips, but whom you know you can trust. Suffice to say, I urge you not to trust anyone from the working class in this matter, shortens their name or fails to smarten up when addressing the public.

Keep on doffing the cap and tugging the forelock, as it were, fnarr fnarr, I said foreLOCK, ooh, Matron! and I’ll keep on delivering.

Your obedient servant

Rishi Sunak
Prime Minister
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Oh dear.
 
Vixen said:
PRESS RELEASE

From: 10 Downing Street

SUBJECT: The Fire at Luton Airport Car Park

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Dear British voter

Rishi here. Just to reassure you that I am continuing to deliver on my priorities. You may be wondering why we have not yet released the specific details of the vehicle that caused the Luton Airport car park fire. This is because it would be most unfair to pinpoint a Jaguar Land Rover vehicle as the culprit before the investigation is complete. But it was definitely a diesel-fuelled car. That is all you need to know.

From a recent clip of my good self at a petrol station, wherein I do not appear to know where to stick the nozzle or how to undo the cap of the Kia, nor have a clue how to pay for it with my credit card, I do have a fleet of top range JLR Land Rovers and RAF and private helicopters to chauffeur me to places. As you know, I was parachuted into No.10 by my Etonian friend, David Cameron, who was introduced to me by my wife’s good friend, PM Narendra Modi in India, as her father owns Infosys and knows the awfully nice Mr. Tata. In fairness to Mr. Tata, we cannot allow idle gossip about JLR. David is from the same Bullingdon Club as my predecessor, whose name shall not pass my lips, but whom you know you can trust. Suffice to say, I urge you not to trust anyone from the working class in this matter, shortens their name or fails to smarten up when addressing the public.

Keep on doffing the cap and tugging the forelock, as it were, fnarr fnarr, I said foreLOCK, ooh, Matron! and I’ll keep on delivering.

Your obedient servant

Rishi Sunak
Prime Minister
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You ain't no satirist, guv.
 
While it has been fun exploring what does or doesn't qualify as an official statement, the current standing of the historical British class system, and discussing the minutiae of bus recalls due to faulty heating systems, maybe we could return to the instigating event of this thread?

Is there any reliable evidence that the Luton Airport fire was caused by an electric vehicle?

I willl link the OP, just in case anyone has forgotten where we started.
 
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MarkCorrigan said:
Why is it whenever someone points out that your attempted sources do not have the expertise they would require for their opinion to be granted the weight you would want, its snobbery?

Vixen, this is a very genuine and serious question so don't bluster past it or ignore it. Do you think expertise exists? That is, do you think that actual study into an area and/or subsequent practise in a specific field such as engineering makes someone more adept than a person who does not have said background but works in an adjacent field?

To give an example, do you think that an accident investigator and engineer has more knowledge on the subject of the aftermath of a shipwreck than say, a commercial ship captain that otherwise does not have any education or experience in engineering or accident investigation, or do you think they're basically at the same level of knowledge?
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People who work in the motor industry are perfectly capable of knowing the difference between a diesel fire, an electrical fire and a lithium battery fire.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
Also you do realise that the idea that the British defer to the upper class is laughably inaccurate right?

I'm sure there are those like that but I've never met one and I lived most of my life in one of the most rural parts of the shires.
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You can't see it when you are within it. If you want to discuss this further, then please open a thread. I will say for avoidance of doubt that I know exactly how it works. I was a 'suit' and a haughty schoolgirl myself. I walked into jobs without even being barely interviewed. Where I live now, a car mechanic with years of experience in the car industry would be treated respectfully and his opinion treated likewise. Only in the UK do people sneer, 'What are his qualifications?' (code for is he astablishment?). What made me see the light? We had a supply teacher for maths when the usual one was away for some reason. To my shame, my class mocked him and refused to take him seriously because he had what was considered a 'common' accent. He left a nervous wreck after one term. When I chatted to someone in later years about Mr. Tyler (sorry, Mr. Tyler!) they said, actually, he was a really good teacher, he really knew his stuff. So, yeah, this very British idea that people commenting in the DM or youtube as experienced people in the car industry for years can be safely ignored and we should obey the command of someone writing copy instead to stop speculating the fire at Luton Airport car park was a lithium-ion one, is based on pure snobbery IMV.
 
Vixen said:
People who work in the motor industry are perfectly capable of knowing the difference between a diesel fire, an electrical fire and a lithium battery fire.
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Doesn't even remotely begin to answer my question. Stop answering questions no-one has asked.

As an aside though no, that is not automatically true just because you want it to be.
 
Vixen said:
You can't see it when you are within it. If you want to discuss this further, then please open a thread. I will say for avoidance of doubt that I know exactly how it works. I was a 'suit' and a haughty schoolgirl myself. I walked into jobs without even being barely interviewed. Where I live now, a car mechanic with years of experience in the car industry would be treated respectfully and his opinion treated likewise. Only in the UK do people sneer, 'What are his qualifications?' (code for is he astablishment?). What made me see the light? We had a supply teacher for maths when the usual one was away for some reason. To my shame, my class mocked him and refused to take him seriously because he had what was considered a 'common' accent. He left a nervous wreck after one term. When I chatted to someone in later years about Mr. Tyler (sorry, Mr. Tyler!) they said, actually, he was a really good teacher, he really knew his stuff. So, yeah, this very British idea that people commenting in the DM or youtube as experienced people in the car industry for years can be safely ignored and we should obey the command of someone writing copy instead to stop speculating the fire at Luton Airport car park was a lithium-ion one, is based on pure snobbery IMV.
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Absolute gibberish. Complete word salad full of laughably incorrect nonsense.
 
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