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Lucianarchy and remote viewing

In another thread where we started talking abut Rving I mentioned this case. I wont bother searching for it as it would
be too time consuming. It is not important. The case is 22 yrears
old. I probably gave you the impression it was current and you
responded that I should inform the authorities immediately!

Steve
 
SteveGrenard said:
In another thread where we started talking abut Rving I mentioned this case. I wont bother searching for it as it would
be too time consuming. It is not important. The case is 22 yrears
old. I probably gave you the impression it was current and you
responded that I should inform the authorities immediately!

Steve

I searched the forum and it's not there.

It apparently is "important" enough for you to claim that I accused you of witholding vital information about the kidnapping. That's a serious claim, Steve, and I must insist that you either show me where I said that, or retract the claim.
 
Its actually not a very serious claim since the information you were so fond of accusing people of witholding in these conversations was 22 years old.

I specifically recall you saying this to me and me ignoring it as more of your hyperbole. As we see again here. So No I will not retract and I will not search for it. If I notice it someday I will bring it to your attention if it is so desperately important to you as most trivial issues are. I already agreed that I may've given you the impression the case was current which it wasn't.
 
SteveGrenard said:
Its actually not a very serious claim since the information you were so fond of accusing people of witholding in these conversations was 22 years old.

I specifically recall you saying this to me and me ignoring it as more of your hyperbole. As we see again here. So No I will not retract and I will not search for it. If I notice it someday I will bring it to your attention if it is so desperately important to you as most trivial issues are. I already agreed that I may've given you the impression the case was current which it wasn't.

So Claus is guilty of something you recall being there but which isn't actually there?

Claus...you're busted! :rolleyes:
 
I wont bother searching for it as it would
be too time consuming. It is not important.

This is pretty typical from you, Steve.

Do you ever finish or see a debate through?
 
Steve,

This is the reason I check on you: You are a perpetual liar. You don't even have the guts to admit you were wrong.

You are pathetic, Steve.
 
c0rbin,

No, Steve never finishes anything. He has promised so many papers on the paranormal, but he never delivers. He claims to have conducted experiments, then backs down, even though the evidence is there. He threatens people with lawsuits, but never follows through.

Steve is nothing but hot, putrid air.
 
If Claus can search and read 400 to 500 or more posts on TVTALK in the four minutes he took to initially reply then I guess he must be right and its not there. Oh well.
Talk about superhuman powers.
 
Claus -- did I ever promise you a lawsuit? The people whose filthy minds libeled and slandered myself and others have apologized. You were not involved. People might like to see the 20 PEMs you send paranoiacally asking if I was gonna sue you and my responses, which were negative. Have you gotten any help yet for this problem Claus?
 
Claus should I remind people how utterly slanderous it is to be accused of sleeping with someone when married to someone else (40 years) and that person is thousands of miles away and I never met them in person? That's what your friend Ed Dittus accused me of. How about calling that person the town whore? Thats what your buddy Ed Dittus, now a moderator of this forum did and which indeed was being considered for a serious lawsuit against JREF for refusing to respond by removing this utter filth and Mr. Ed Dittus of X town in Connecicut who was investigated by my lawyers. There is also someone no longer associated with JREF who was partly responsible for their ineptitude but I won't say more. Mr. Ed has apologized. JREF has reformed. But Claus, you are still the same paranoid personality you always were and it is a good thing you have left the country. You can be sure that your activities on the internet and your cyberstalking and harassing are known to the INS in case you decide to try and return although I dont think you'd want to. They are very particular these days who they let in the country.

How about the death threat from Jeff Corey which you backed up and his publishing my home address publicly? You guys are just a bunch of scumbags pure and simple but you wont get me to back down on you like you've tried to destroy previous efforts. Just keep it up. It makes the file all the more compelling.

Its all documented in black and white so take care buddy. And keep harassing me (and others) and I will keep documenting it. And no, I am not publishing this documentation here but dont worry, it gets where its supposed to go. So dont bother asking.
 
SteveGrenard said:
If Claus can search and read 400 to 500 or more posts on TVTALK in the four minutes he took to initially reply then I guess he must be right and its not there. Oh well.
Talk about superhuman powers.

Steve, ever heard of a search engine?

Not superhuman at all. Heck, you refer to Google often enough to know what it is.

SteveGrenard said:
Claus -- did I ever promise you a lawsuit. The people whose filthy minds libeled and slandered myself and others have apologized. You were not involved. People might like to see the 20 PEMs you send paranoiacally asking if I was gonna sue you and my responses, which were negative. Have you gotten any help yet for this problem Claus?

It's not my problem, Steve. And I still have those emails of yours, Steve. All of them. You threatened me with a lawsuit. As well as other people here.

SteveGrenard said:
Claus should I remind people how utterly slanderous it is to be accused of sleeping with someone when married to someone else and that person is thousands of miles away and I never met them? That's what your friend Ed Dittus accused me of.

First, he is not my "friend". I have never met the guy. I do read his posts with great interest, though.

SteveGrenard said:
How about calling that person the town whore? Thats what your buddy Ed Dittus, now a moderator of this forum did and which indeed was being considered for a serious lawsuit against JREF for refusing to respond by removing this utter filth and Mr. Ed Dittus of X town in Connecicut who was investigated by my lawyers.

WTF are you talking about? Where did Ed claim you were the town whore???

SteveGrenard said:
There is also someone no longer associated with JREF who was partly responsible for their ineptitude but I won't say more.

Back to your usual, whispering innuendos again, eh?

SteveGrenard said:
Mr. Ed has apologized.

He has?? Where?

SteveGrenard said:
JREF has reformed.

Oh, I dunno...you are still here.

SteveGrenard said:
But Claus, you are still the same paranoid personality you always were and it is a good thing you have left the country.

I left the US for my own reasons. However, I will not forget that post you made about me and pedophilia. That one is saved for posterity, I can assure you.

SteveGrenard said:
You can be sure that your activities on the internet and your cyberstalking and harassing are known to the INS in case you decide to try and return although I dont think you'd want to. The are very particular these days who they let in the country.

Oh, Steve. Now, you threaten me with the INS. How pathetic....

SteveGrenard said:
How about the death threat from Jeff Corey which you backed up and his publishing my home address publicly? You guys are just a bunch of scumbags pure and simple but you wont get me to back down on you like you've tried to destroy previous efforts. Just keep it up. It makes the file all the more compelling.

Death threat?? What are you talking about? There was never any "death threat".

As for files....I keep files, Steve. That's probably why you never make good on those threats of yours...

SteveGrenard said:
Its all documented in black and white so take care buddy. And keep harassing me and I will keep documenting it. And no, I am not publishing this docuemntation here but dont worry, it gets where its supposed to go. So dont bother asking.

I am "harrassing" you? Why, Steve, then you should contact the moderators and report this hideous offense. You should contact your lawyer, and file a lawsuit (a real one, this time).

You're a loonie, Steve.
 
Corbin Parroting Larsen: Do you ever finish or see a debate through?

This is your idea of a debate. You have got to be kidding.

:big: :big:
 
SteveGrenard said:
larsen: Do you ever finish or see a debate through?

This is your idea of a debate. You have got to be kidding.

:big: :big:

Steve, that was not my quote. Sheeesh, you can't even quote people correctly!

Whattamaroon....
 
Usual misdirection from larsen. Unfortunately for him I will not respond to any of his deliberate attempted misunderstanding of what I wrote. He can say what he wants, its okay with me. I just wanted to make sure he knew that these items were not forgotten and are safely archived for future reference.
 
Oh yeah sorry Corbin. So you're the one who considers this a debate. You are all beginning to look alike ...............
 
SteveGrenard said:
Usual misdirection from larsen. Unfortunately for him I will not respond to any of his deliberate attempted misunderstanding of what I wrote. He can say what he wants, its okay with me. I just wanted to make sure he knew that these items were not forgotten and are safely archived for future reference.

Misdirection? Steve, you are the one who makes a claim about me, that you cannot back up.

You can bet your bee-hind that I am saving what you post. Even that which you later remove from your posts....
 
This isn't really a debate, as there are no judges. However, that doesn't mean that logic doesn't apply in these discussions. It seems that fallacies make up the back-bone of most believer's arguements.

The believers have yet to show valid evidence for their claims. Luci does not have superpowers, prove me wrong Luci, win the JREF money.
 
thaiboxerken said:
The believers have yet to show valid evidence for their claims. Luci does not have superpowers, prove me wrong Luci, win the JREF money.
Hell, never mind the JREF money Luci, just make any prediction at all!

Seriously. Make a prediction, one that can be noted and filed. I don't need JREF to validate anything, I'd just like you to make one specific prediction that comes true.

You won't win anything, but you may change my mind...
 
SteveGrenard said:
How about calling that person the town whore? Thats what your buddy Ed Dittus

Totally out of order. Ed and Claus should know better - if you're going to make a claim we need hard (pardon the pun) evidence.

Lists of people Steve has slept with.
Sworn testimonies from eye-witnesses/voyeurs.
Clinical records from the local clap clinic, etc.
 
Oh yeah sorry Corbin. So you're the one who considers this a debate. You are all beginning to look alike ...............

Yeah, we all look like little black text on a screen.

Steve, that you walk away from debates is not a matter to debate. Therefore this thread is not a debate.

However, there are several issues for which you (and some others) are the champion. It is bad form to walk away from them when the heat is on from your opposition.

That tells me that you really don't think there is anything to "life after death."

Get some sand, man. Address the points in those debates and move on--quit playing footsy.
 

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