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Lucianarchy and remote viewing

Starrman said:


Do they have police scanners in England? So ordinary citizens can listen in on police radio communication.
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I posted about two hours before the terrorist attack in Ladybrook. :rolleyes:
 
Chupacabras said:

Yet another very plausible solution could be that you got notice before the media went to publish the news, which is not too hard, you know.
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:hit: How many times are you going to experience cognitive dissonace in this thread!? :hit: I posted about two hours :hit: before:hit: the terrorist attack in Ladybrook:hit:
 
SteveGrenard said:

Allegedly the inconclusive findings of the CIA contractors led the CIA to publicly state they disbanded the program and they may well have but rumours continue to surface that a nucleus of it, scaled back, remains but cannot be proven.
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In other words, they found nothing but garbage.
 
Luci, you don't have superpowers. Get over it.

You didn't do anything special with the "ladybrook" word.
 
I posted about two hours before the terrorist attack in Ladybrook.
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Although the piece said the incident happened two hours after you posted, that doesn't mean the police didn't know anything about it two hours earlier. My thought was the police were aware of a threat to Ladybrook, were discussing it on their radios and you heard it on a police scanner.

I'm a skeptic. I am going to try and think of ways you could have done that without being psychic. My main theory is that you typed a town's name, and claimed it as soon as that town showed up in the news (which will happen to any town of any considerable size, eventually). You just got lucky and it happened within two hours - bigger coincidences happen every day.

Asking about the scanner was just another avenue of investigation. Sorry to make you roll your eyes so much, but if you make claims like this you had better be ready for people here to look for rational explanations.
 
Starrman said:
Asking about the scanner was just another avenue of investigation. Sorry to make you roll your eyes so much, but if you make claims like this you had better be ready for people here to look for rational explanations.
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You're talking to the wrong poster. Luci doesn't like to examine his claims, he just likes to make them then lie about them later.
 
Something stinks here.

Luci posts "ladybrook", at the end of a post. Later, a bus in Belfast is hijacked, close to "Ladybrook".

Evidence of psi? Let's look critically at this:

Apparently, Lucianarchy posts "ladybrook" at 10:33AM Forum time. That's 3:40BST, a full 50 minutes before the bus is hijacked.

However:

  • It is possible to edit a post so it doesn't show.
  • The word "ladybrook" is quite obviously posted with no relation to the subject being discussed.
  • In fact, it is in direct conflict with what Lucianarchy has just said: That the psi effect only works through "cooperation". What, in the actual Ladybrook event "cooperated" with Lucianarchy's claimed psychic abilities?
  • There are police scanners from all over the world, connected to the Internet.
  • There are also news wires
  • The first sure record we have of the "ladybrook" word is the following post from c0rbin, at 11:35 AM Forum time. That's 62 minutes later, a full 22 minutes after the bus is hijacked.

That gives Lucianarchy ample time to pick up a police scanner or a live news wire, then edit her post. The mere fact that "ladybrook" has absolutely no relation to the rest of the post speaks very much in favor of this.

We also have to take into account that Lucianarchy is plain wrong about when she posted. She now claims "about two hours" before the event, when it actually was max. 40 minutes. This is a clear embellishment, which does not speak in favor of Lucianarchy having a clear conscience.

Now, we admittedly don't know much about this, and we sure won't get any information out of Lucianarchy that will help solve this. But we are a far cry from establishing that Lucianarchy really has psychic powers.

Something stinks here, that's for sure...
 
SteveGrenard said:
For the complete chronology here are a few sites that detail the
government's RV (Stargate) program:
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Thanks, but the final conclusion is enough for me. If they say they found nothing, then I'm pretty sure they did.
10 million dollars of tax-payer money, wasted.
 
SteveGrenard said:
Remote viewing was originally a classified program sponsored by the Defense Intelligence Agency. They turned it over to the CIA which in turn contracted with Stanford Research Institute (SRI), SAIC and AIR to test it. In about 1995 its existence was declassified. Although the skeptic community claimed the results of the testing invalidated RVing even Hyman would not go on the record as completely debunking it and he published several papers on his examination of the study as did Dr. Jessica Utts of the University of California Davis. They also issued a joint communiqie. The National Science Foundation in turn selected the negative aspects of the study and issued a statement debunking remote viewing. Shortly after it was declassified, at least one American President, Jimmy Carter, mentioned an RV project, that of rv'ers finding a crashed soviet aircraft in Zaire (Congo).
This was at Emory University.

Allegedly the inconclusive findings of the CIA contractors led the CIA to publicly state they disbanded the program and they may well have but rumours continue to surface that a nucleus of it, scaled back, remains but cannot be proven.
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And most of the "gifted" RVers involved in the Stargate program went on to make a living by selling RV (books, training, lecturing, etc...), rather than doing RV. It seems that RV is much more effective as a marketing commodity than it ever was as intelligence gathering tool.
 
I predict TBK will like the URL of the second site. :)

My favorite from the first link is the double blind study, oh, except they told the viewer what he was looking for:

The only additional information provided was the designation of the target as an R&D test facility
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Oh, other than telling the viewer it was a Soviet research and development center, he didn't have any queing at all.

If he can really remote view, WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU TELL HIM THAT!
 
Can you please tell me what item is on my monitor BEFORE I remove it.

So i don't believe you, so what.. get over it it's nothing personal against you just the whole phychic thing in general. Your example is a typical unsubstantiated random data.

I know in your own little world you feel vindicated and this is just proof and you simply can't believe people don't see it the same as you. Me personally i'm not trying to be stubborn in the face of what you believe is overwhelming evidence, it's just not even remotely interesting, on a wow rating of 0-10 it's about a 1.
If some woman had drowned in a river you would have claimed that also, or a girl (lady) called brook involved in anything etc the list of combinations is endless.

Really I must be phychic as i made the prediction that you would fail to provide the required answer by avoiding the question.
But i'm sensible enough to realise that you can work things out (or have a bloody good guess) before they actually happen (FFS please don't cut this and prattle on about how you couldn't predict your irrelevent claim as it's not the same as fitting a prediction to anything you can - it's not worth the cut and paste and bandwidth)

You claim Remote Viewing amongst your plethora of special gifts (man you must be REALLY special and better than everyone else to be bestowed with so many when the rest of us get nothing) all I wan't is an example, yet you will avoid the test as you people always do because you are either frauds, desperate "special" wannabies or simply deluded.. you have probably justified not attempting the test to yourself somehow and feel you have nothing to prove (you do or why would you post)

Simple, show me the goods.. it's a simple request, you say you can do it.. well - the item is still there and I absolutely will not cheat.

At the weekend a m8 said he could down a pint in <3 seconds.. so i said ok show me, he didn't get all uppity and cry about how i obviously didn't believe him and was calling him a liar he just downed his pint - there you go if I can doubt a m8 then a complete stranger should not get upset.

If it helps i'll think about said item a bit harder.

If you decide to cut any section of my post and answer then the first line is all i'm interested in .. go on give it a shot, but i predict yet another avoidance post... prove me wrong.

good luck.

AlienX
 
CFLarsen said:

We also have to take into account that Lucianarchy is plain wrong about when she posted. She now claims "about two hours" before the event, when it actually was max. 40 minutes.
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Wasn't it stated earlier in this thread that the forum clock is about 40 minutes fast?
 
The first sure record we have of the "ladybrook" word is the following post from c0rbin, at 11:35 AM Forum time. That's 62 minutes later, a full 22 minutes after the bus is hijacked.
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And I had no idea what the hell Lucky was talking about. I never mentioned "ladybrook" prior to that nor was it part of the discussion I was involved in.

There is high comedy here.

Either Lucky is a master Troll or delusional.
 
The first sure record we have of the "ladybrook" word is the following post from c0rbin, at 11:35 AM Forum time. That's 62 minutes later, a full 22 minutes after the bus is hijacked.
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Edit: The following is wrong, because Claus already took the 40 minutes into account

Again, Devil's Advocate, but the forum clock is (at least today it is) about 40 minutes fast. That means corbin's post occured about 20 minutes before the hijack. Also, while it's not crystal clear from the news reports, it sounds like the driver of the bus stopped it and raised the alarm on the same street where the hijackers originally got on with their bomb.

But this bit's all true :)

Of course, Luci's predictive powers are no match for my own. On my last three posts, all of which mentioned Luci's purported skill at predicting lottery numbers, I added these initials:

IELWITP
IELWITPT
LWITP

Translation:

I expect Luci will ignore this post
I expect Luci will ignore this post too
Luci will ignore this post (I was getting confident)

:D

David
 
I have - of course! - taken the forum time stamp discrepancy into consideration.

What kinda skeptic do you think I am? :)
 
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