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Lucianarchy and remote viewing

Chupacabras said:


So, as already proposed, is there any way we at this forum could set up something that would be worth to you believers? I have a desk here with several things (easy), or if you would like to come into my bedroom. What else would RV's need to go ahead and make a test? What would skeptics need?
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As I, and many others have pointed out, the effect is often subtle. But the effect does indeed exist. My example of the Ladybrook terrorist attempt was a good one. Often you get a vague impression, in this case I got a name. An hour later the same day the attack ocurred in that place, and your response is to put me down as a criminal suspect.:rolleyes: Perhaps you now understand why many psychics do not want to co-operate with the prejudiced public.
 
I think that Luci has demonstrated something quite impressive. It certainly looks good - a timed unedited post, quoted by others that has one word attached, seemingly unrelated to everything else, suddenly is linked to a major news story.

However, Luci is wrong when he says no other news story contains the word Ladybrook. If you go to the BBC site and do a search and you'll find a reference to a long-running murder investigation.

So how was it done? Any ideas? Surely the clock being wrong is a factor (it is presently tweny minutes slow). And there are, I believe, occasions where you can edit a post without it saying "edited by..." at the bottom. I've done it myself, although only a few minutes after I first posted, and without anyone else posting on the forum.
 
Ersby said:
I think that Luci has demonstrated something quite impressive. It certainly looks good - a timed unedited post, quoted by others that has one word attached, seemingly unrelated to everything else, suddenly is linked to a major news story.

However, Luci is wrong when he says no other news story contains the word Ladybrook. If you go to the BBC site and do a search and you'll find a reference to a long-running murder investigation.

So how was it done? Any ideas? Surely the clock being wrong is a factor (it is presently tweny minutes slow). And there are, I believe, occasions where you can edit a post without it saying "edited by..." at the bottom. I've done it myself, although only a few minutes after I first posted, and without anyone else posting on the forum.
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Ersby, what do you mean by "how was it done"? One guy here already says I am a terrorist suspect :rolleyes: It looks like the Ladybrook incident ocurred about an hour and a half after I posted and I only discovered that the attack took place from the BBC on Sunday, a day later.
 
Lucianarchy said:


Ersby, what do you mean by "how was it done"? One guy here already says I am a terrorist suspect :rolleyes: It looks like the Ladybrook incident ocurred about an hour and a half after I posted and I only discovered that the attack took place from the BBC on Sunday, a day later.
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I mean "how was it done" as in "how was it done"... I'm a little surprised you'd be confused by such simple English.

Hmm, I just edited my post, and saw there was no announcement about it at the bottom. The clock is still out, by 17 mins, I reckon. What's more this story doesn't seem too big. The BBC site is the only one I can find that carries it. It's becoming clear to me how it all happened.
 
Ersby said:


I mean "how was it done" as in "how was it done"... I'm a little surprised you'd be confused by such simple English.
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I'm confused as to your assuming it was done through deception. No one knows how it works. But it does.
 
SteveG said:

Randi openly admits he will never have to give away his prize because nobody can sucessfully meet his challenge.
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Never played poker, have you? Such games used to be called "Brag." Randi is making a bet. So far, the table has been his. He is bragging.

He knows that so far, anyone with enough courage to step forward and say: "I do what I claim to do and will show you!" has been either foolhardily deluding themselves, or did not know what they were up against when they brought their con to the table (eg, the poor little Russian girl).

Randi is daring people and you are too unconfident to put yourself out there for it--even though you might revolutionize the world like Germ Theory or Atomic Theory has.

So if it looks like I am generalizing about Randi, his tactics or motives, keep in mind I have been preconditioned by these factors.
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You admit your mind is closed?
 
Lucianarchy said:


I'm confused as to your assuming it was done through deception.
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This is a discussion board for skeptics - how did you think people would think it was done?

As for how it was done, I need to tie up a few things first. You could help by linking to the story for sites other than the BBC. Cheers.
 
If, what Luci says is true, it's hardly evidence of "remote viewing". I can say a name and something will probably happen somewhere and sometime that involves that name.

Luci has claimed to be tested positive for "remote viewing" capabilities, and yet implies in this thread that it's such a random thing that it can't be tested. :rolleyes:

Luci, I don't believe you have superpowers and your little charade won't convince me either.

I predict Luci will say the following:

"Really? Take 'Ladybrook'. How many times has that been mentioned in connection with a newsworthy story, anywhere, ever? Ersby has mentioned that there has been a long running murder inquiry going on, but nothing has made the news recently, but I can tell you that the Ladybrook terrorist attack happened within an hour after my posting."


I will post my reply before she says it though.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Ladybrook

There are so many places, events and people that could coincide with any vague "reading" such as... "Something will happen and it will involve Ladybrook, it will happen sometime in the future." You can't lose. If it doesn't happen soon, you still have the rest of the future to wait for something to happen that involves the name Ladybrook.
 
I believe you can sidestep the "Edited at..." additions only by editing your post before anyone else has read it.

So how was it done? Any ideas? Surely the clock being wrong is a factor (it is presently tweny minutes slow)
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If the forum times are in GMT as they claim, and not BST, then the forum's clock is 40 minutes fast, so Luci's post, stamped at 15:33, would have been made at about 15:00.

David
 
thaiboxerken said:
If, what Luci says is true, it's hardly evidence of "remote viewing". I can say a name and something will probably happen somewhere and sometime that involves that name.

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Really? Take 'Ladybrook'. How many times has that been mentioned in connection with a newsworthy story, anywhere, ever? Ersby has mentioned that there has been a long running murder inquiry going on, but nothing has made the news recently, but I can tell you that the Ladybrook terrorist attack happened within an hour after my posting.
 
davidhorman said:




If the forum times are in GMT as they claim, and not BST, then the forum's clock is 40 minutes fast, so Luci's post, stamped at 15:33, would have been made at about 15:00.

David
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Which was about an hour and a half before the terrorist attack.
 
Lucianarchy said:


:rolleyes: Which was still about an hour and a quarter before the terrorist attack. :rolleyes:
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Your timestamp can be easily manipulated as well and/or mistaken because of time-zone issues.

I wonder why you want to use such a tragedy for your own agenda of convincing people that you have superpowers?
 
Lucianarchy said:


Really? Take 'Ladybrook'. How many times has that been mentioned in connection with a newsworthy story, anywhere, ever?
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...F-8&q=Ladybrook

There are so many places, events and people that could coincide with any vague "reading" such as... "Something will happen and it will involve Ladybrook, it will happen sometime in the future." You can't lose. If it doesn't happen soon, you still have the rest of the future to wait for something to happen that involves the name Ladybrook.
 
thaiboxerken said:


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...F-8&q=Ladybrook

There are so many places, events and people that could coincide with any vague "reading" such as... "Something will happen and it will involve Ladybrook, it will happen sometime in the future." You can't lose. If it doesn't happen soon, you still have the rest of the future to wait for something to happen that involves the name Ladybrook.
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The fact is though, the terrorist attack ocurred within a couple of hours of making the posting, and, of course, the fact that 'Ladybrook' is an extremely uncommon word to found in any news coverage, particularly in such impostance as a terrorist attack.
 
thaiboxerken said:


Your timestamp can be easily manipulated as well and/or mistaken because of time-zone issues.
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What rubbish :rolleyes: You are really scraping the barrell now, I'll bet you regret that it was you who started this thread now. Corbin replied to my 'ladybrook' post before the incident took place as well. Is he in the deal too? :rolleyes:
 
That link doesn't work. Can't tell if it's temporarily down or not.
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It works for me (maybe you copied and pasted the ellipsised version in the text), but I can't see any mention of the time of the incident in the article.

Your timestamp can be easily manipulated as well and/or mistaken because of time-zone issues.
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To play devil's advocate for a mo, can it really be easily manipulated? And what time zone issues exist? IIRC the time zone is only taken into consideration when displaying the time, not storing the time a post was made.

There was some talk of a time bug in Vbulletin - I seem to remember a snippet of code being posted that was very obviously wrong - but I can't remember what it was about.

David
 
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