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Wait a minute,you've designed cranes,and now you are the captain of the Soviet Army? I think the word for you is fantasist.
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You are the best in this forum who understand my English.
Tell me the truth please, where are you from?
From USSR?
 
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
I am the captain of Soviet Army.
My military specialty was missiles “earth-air”.
So I know well enough what means army.
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You were a captain in the Soviet army and you can't tell the difference between Welsh and Russian?

By the way,''Cymru,a Cymraeg ydy dafodiaith y dduw means ''Wales,and Welsh is gods's language'' and ''Cymru am byth'' means ''Wales for ever.''
 
Welsh is fully symmetrical original holy language.
Ancient Welsh people embrace efficient lot to every brunch and level of power with imperative change once a year.
Old Celts not to strand a baby together with dirty water
they realise being free from emotions mean to be free
from language creativity potential and it is not good even for axial language.
 
Ddywalgi , Ddywalgi , yn brydio bright
In 'r choedwig chan 'r nos
What 'n anfarwol balf ai eye
Could fframia 'th 'n angiriol symmetry?

:WALES: <-- This is a peace offering to make up for my mangling of your beautiful and symmetrical language.
 
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Diolch Akhenaten.

Siaberwoci. Lewis Carroll. trans. Selyf Roberts

Mae'n brydgell ac mae'r brochgim stwd
Yn gimblo a gyrian yn y mhello:
Pob cólomrws yn féddabwd,
A'r hoch oma'n chwibruo.

'Gwylia'r hen Siaberwoc, fy mab!
Y brathiad llym a'r crafanc tynn!
A rhed pan weli'r Gwbigab
A'r ofnynllyd Barllyn!'

Cym'rodd ei gleddyf yn ei law
I geisio ei fanawaidd brae--
A gorffwys ger y goeden Taw,
I feddwl--fel pe tae.

A thra pendronai ymhlith y coed
Y Siaberwoc a'i lygaid fflam
A ddaeth, mor wallgof ag erioed
Gan ffrwtian gam a cham!

Un, dau! Un, dau! drwy'r awyr oer
Aeth min y cledd ysgiw, ysgôl!
Fe'i lladdodd, a chan gludo'i ben
Hwblamodd yn ei ôl.

'A lleddaist ti y Siaberwoc?
Tyrd yma, hapllon fachgen!
O jiwblus ddydd! Hwrê! Hwroc!'
Gan wenu arno'n llawen.

Mae'n brydgell ac mae'r brochgim stwd
Yn gimblo a gyrian yn y mhello:
Pob cólomrws yn féddabwd,
A'r hoch oma'n chwibruo.
 
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Nationalcosmopolitan said:
There are some variants:

1 One week mother is with kids and father is on his job, and an other week father takes care about them and mother on her job.
On one day weekend all family spends together.
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Not possible with my family. I'm active-duty military. Though you claim to understand how the military works, you don't. For some duty stations, having a week off and a week on would actually work. With others, it wouldn't. With the military, the mission drives the job requirements. You're asking for it to be the other way around, which wouldn't work for the current requirements of the US military.

Also, you haven't addressed single-parent families.

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2 Using grand parents to look the kids 26 weeks a year and 26 weeks a year look for them themselves.
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Wouldn't work for my family. Both of my parents are still gainfully employed and don't have time to take care of a single very active 2-year old full-time, much less more than one.

My husband's only remaining parents (a mother and a step-mother) are not physically able to take care of small children.

Plus, none of them live in the same geographical area as us. You will find that this is often the case, especially with American families: it is not uncommon at all for a family to be geographically separated from the parents of the main elements of the nuclear family, which means that you are now either going to require a change in the form of the family from a nuclear type to an extended type, or you're going to require a limitation in the mobility of the family (i.e., requiring that families stay in the same geographic area of their kin).

Nationalcosmopolitan said:
3 Symmetrical lifestyle people can organize group of parents for looking for the kids.
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Regular lifestyle people can, and do, arrange for this sort of thing all the time. Two points, however, one: there are (and for good reasons) fairly restrictive laws (in the United States, at least) regarding day care. In other words, it takes more than "organization". It takes licensing to do what you are suggesting.

The other point is that babysitting is not the same thing as parenting. Parenting takes a significant amount of investement, both in terms of time and money. Because you are not just making sure a kid keeps out of trouble. You are making a person. I am not willing to abrogate that responsiblity to anyone other than my husband and even not then -- by this I mean that I absolutely want to minimize instances in which my children are with my husband for extended periods of time. It's not because I don't trust him. It's that children need multiple role models. And my husband needs a break (more often than once a week).

Nationalcosmopolitan said:
4 School can be organized for symmetrical lifestyle parents were there kids spend all the time when their parents are on job or 26 weeks a year when their parents are on job place with possibility of audio and video monitoring 24 hours of life of their kids.
One imperative condition – kids have to fill themselves in such schools better than with their parents.
This condition will be implementing if all staff of such schools will be symmetrical lifestyle people.
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If I am working full-time, I am not going to be able to monitor my children effectively even if I'm surrounded by a bank of monitors with intelligent cameras that follow my children's every move. I simply cannot be focused on more than one thing fully at a time. I can't drop work and rush home every time my kids bang their knees on the furniture and need the boo-boo kissed. I can't drop work and rush home every time they wake up at night from having nightmares and need to be hugged. I can't drop work and rush home every time they get in an argument that needs to be sorted out in person. And kids are SMART. They will figure out where the cameras /don't/ see and that's where they'll do their mischief. No. Remote monitoring is not parenting, either.

Furthermore, once again, you're asking me to abrogate the responsibility of making people to someone else. "Let the schools do it," you're saying. This is absolutely not possible. The function of the schools is to impart practical knowledge to children. Some of that might be ethics and morality and philosophy, but it is up to the parents to provide basic "good person" training and to support and emphasize that particular kind of information through their everyday parenting.

Children need a consistency in upbringing in order for the "make a person" kit to be effective. This doesn't happen when one week they're being raised soley by dad, then by mom, then by grandma and grandpa in a completely different location, or sometimes by one teacher, or by another teacher, or by another teacher.

If we were living in a culture that was completely homogenous, with large kin groups, what you're describing would be totally possible. However, the US culture is not homogenous and we (mostly) live a highly-mobile, nuclear lifestyle. That's why direct and involved parenting -- as provided by the actual responsible adult(s), usually (but not always) the parents -- is so critically important. No one else is there to take the responsibility.

Nationalcosmopolitan said:
It is a big mistake to compare a person with the rope.
Rope will be more and more poorly and the man will be stronger and stronger.
A week of relaxation and meditation and a week of maximal physical and creative concentration give great results for personal self-development for example.
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I disagree. I think that comparing people with rope is actually very apt. I personally think that many people work better under the "steady strain" principle than the "sudden-jerk" principle (as much as the latter may actually be human nature; we like to get ourselves into ruts and then need a jerk to be pulled out of them). However, what you're describing may work pretty well for some people. But others will be totally miserable. Remember, people are different.

Plus, here's a point: you're telling me that I'll work a full week and my husband will stay at home with the children (a full-time job) for that week. Then, come the next week, we'll switch -- he'll work a full-time job and I'll stay at home being a parent, which is a full-time job. I see no relaxation and meditation in either of our future: just solid work all the time, with only one day per week when both of us are with the children and we can actually take turns taking care of the children. So really you're just giving me one day off a week.

No thanks.

Nationalcosmopolitan said:
26 weeks of creative vocation a year will make almost every person maximal strong and competitive in limits of his personal abilities.
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My job simply isn't going to give me 26 weeks of "creative vacation time" off. It just isn't going to happen. The mission won't allow it.

Nationalcosmopolitan said:
I am the captain of Soviet Army.
My military specialty was missiles “earth-air”.
So I know well enough what means army.
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Except that you don't.

Nationalcosmopolitan said:
A soldier is a man who has fight on war in strongly dangerous to his life conditions.
Every minute he has big chance to be killed on war or on military trainings.

He will not be happy to be killed in a young age with out being really free man no one day in his life.
Remember that his military bosses even more enemies for him than his real enemies.

And to this soldier I give 26 weeks creative vocation a year!
Now he will be happy to dead for his motherland of symmetrical lifestyle freedom because in every time of his life he will know that minimal 50% of it he was really free man.
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This would be great...assuming that the army has predictable, minimal requirements. Any army that has to deal with a large variation in missions and requirements and that has to maintain enough training & flexibility to react effectively to unplanned or unanticipated developments is not going to be able to stick to your arbitrary work schedule.

Nationalcosmopolitan said:
The worst years of person life are years when he is old and ill man.
In those years he will get freedom and pension.
But 30% of people who pay in pension funds will not use even such f… freedom because they will be died in the their job time period.
Symmetrical lifestyle gives them strong filing that minimum half of their life they were really free.
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Different people have different needs and desires. Different jobs have different requirements. You can't shoehorn all people and businesses into one work model. It is not efficient.
 
@ daffyd

Many thanks. I've stashed that away for future use as the occasion demands.

May all your cawl be hot and hearty.


Cheers,

Dave


PS. Welsh is going great guns in the thread at the moment. Perhaps it's the real Lord Language, and not Hebrew? NC will be disappointed.
 
When I did some Celtic history at college I read a book from the eighteenth century in which the author argued that the Welsh were one of the lost tribes of Israel. His main piece of evidence for this assertion was the fact that Welsh sounds a bit like Hebrew. At least, it has that guttural 'ch' sound.
 
sleepy_lioness said:
When I did some Celtic history at college I read a book from the eighteenth century in which the author argued that the Welsh were one of the lost tribes of Israel. His main piece of evidence for this assertion was the fact that Welsh sounds a bit like Hebrew. At least, it has that guttural 'ch' sound.
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Nah,the Welsh are the Irish who couldn't swim.
 
sleepy_lioness said:
When I did some Celtic history at college I read a book from the eighteenth century in which the author argued that the Welsh were one of the lost tribes of Israel. His main piece of evidence for this assertion was the fact that Welsh sounds a bit like Hebrew. At least, it has that guttural 'ch' sound.
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But is it as symmetrical? That's the key, you know.


dafydd said:
Nah, the Welsh are the Irish who couldn't swim.
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So all of the Welsh are actually marooned in Ireland, while the Irish are masquerading as the Welsh in Wales?

It's all falling into place.

Or is this just more of your Russian tricks?

Or should I have stopped reading this thread before the brain damage happened?
 
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