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I don't understand what you mean here. "Specter", also spelled "spectre", is a synonym for "ghost". It's also part of the colloquial phrase "to raise the specter of (something)", which generally means that you refer to an issue thought to be dead (but likely to be revived).
"Grass" can mean a lot of things. By your use of the word "smoke", I'm assuming you mean "grass" as jargon for marijuana. Is that correct? Your use of the word "specter" confuses my understanding of this, since "specter" is not used in English in a way to express quantity, which is what I'm assuming you're doing by using the word "huge" (which itself is an adjective used to modify a noun indicating size or quantity).
Do you mean "Ritalin" (used to treat Attention-Deficit Disorder, or "ADD")? "Returin" is not the name of a medication that I can find. Oh, by the way, "antidepressants" is a noun (a plural noun), not an adjective as you're using it here. And it's "medication", not "medicaments", which is not a word in English.
I presume you mean "drugs". "Drag", as a verb, means to pull an (assumedly heavy) object along the ground. It can also refer to a form of street car racing called "drag racing". "Drag Queen" is a (male) transvestite. "Dregs", another possibility here, refers to the very last bit of liquid -- usually wine, beer, rum, or other intoxicant -- left in the bottom of the barrel, bottle, or other container. Colloquially, "the dregs" refers anything leftover that would normally not be used or otherwise the very least-desirable remnants of something, as in "the dregs of society".
This makes no sense. I presume you mean "...the intellectual power of your former president", which is an ad hominem logical fallacy, in that it simply insults those who are debating with you without addressing the actual substance of what they're saying. Example:
Nationalcosmopolitan: "I have a great idea that will solve all of the world's problems. You just do A, followed by B, and it allows you to achieve C, D, and E."
Jackalgirl: "Oh yeah? You're a poopie-head."
This sentence does not parse because it is missing a subject and a noun (and is sorely needing of some punctuation, I think).
"Safe" is an adjective. I think you mean "save", which is a verb. It's "developed" (one "p", not two), and I think you mean "highLY", as in "highly-developed". You still haven't really described what this "symmetrIcal lifestyle" is going to save us from and haven't properly addressed some serious problems with it:
o The requirement for businesses to maintain two sets of employees, and doubling the cost of doing business
o The loss of productivity due to the time required to conduct a thorough turn-over at work
o The loss of consistent management at such businesses caused by executive/management turnover every two weeks
o The requirement for (in nuclear families, at least) one spouse to be devoted to child-rearing (when children are involved)
o How child-rearing will be done at all in families with one parent.
I know, I know, I just don't understand because I'm a poopie-head.
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bruto
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I can accept most of the insults, and laugh at the absurdity, bad language, malapropisms and utter nonsense, but I'm tempted to report that. That's a low blow indeed!
Nonpareil
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It's horrible advice to anyone.
A huge what of what now? I assume that you're accusing all westerners of being really heavy marijuana users. Besides being offensive to people like me, who are westerners who have never touched drugs in their life, that's very obviously incorrect.
Uh, no.
Yeah, I think we're just going to have to get Pixy in here.
Yeah. Insults from a troll. Never seen that before.
Because it's nonsense. It is demonstratably nonsense. It has been revealed to you time and time again why it would not work. Basic economics, human psychology, etc. All of them deny your claims.
Yeah, one second...
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Look. I fully understand that *YOU* want a symmetrical lifestyle. You want your bosses to pay you the same wage for doing less work. You think that everybody else's bosses should do the same. That every company should have twice the workforce and twice the wage burden, just so their employees can enjoy the freedom to pursue some sort of creativity.Nationalcosmopolitan said:
Good luck with that.
I don't want to work 60 hours per week, nor do I want to work 50 hours per week. I don't want to take a wage cut so that I can be "free" to hang around doing....whatever. I like the routine I have now. And it's not because I use drugs, and it's certainly not because I'm low on the intellectual scale. Not everybody out there has a need to be creative for weeks at a time. Why is it so hard for you to understand that people who think differently than you do aren't running from freedom simply because they don't want what you're selling?
bruto
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I now provide an almost relevant kitten from my own cosmopolitan background. It is almost relevant because I am presenting it as a metaphor for the sort of cognitive dissonance shown by such persons as Nationalcosmopolitan. It is, by the way, the label from a box of Dr. Jeva slippers, which were all the rage for daily wear in post-WWII France. Made of tough carpet on top, with crepe soles than lasted forever. Sort of as Crocs are now, Jevas were then, and may be still. I lived there in 1951-2, when I was little, and as you can see from the fact that I clipped it out and saved it for over 50 years, I loved this cat, which might also be considered a precursor to the lolcat:
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I'll be dipped -- I stand corrected. Thank you! : )
(It still sounds weird, but that's due to my own ignorance. I keep thinking it would mean getting in trouble with medicine, such as "he took sleeping pills after drinking two six-packs; how he's in a medicament!")
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This sounds a lot like what has been attributed to Catherine K. J. la Fournier
Department of Gender Politics, Miskatonic University, Arkham, Mass
@Nationalcosmopolitan:
Are you sure you're not merely parroting the ideas of others?
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Darn pendants.
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Yeah, we just keep hanging in there.
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You'll swing for that!
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Jackalgirl!
1 When I proposed to use Holy Resurrected Language as global lingual frank for all God believers worldwide you proposed Esperanto.
2 When I proposed to your husband - Evangelistic Church pastor to become the main person in process of learning the Resurrected Language of their God by kids of 200 millions Evangelistic Christians all over the world your husband has refused.
Evangelistic Christians recognize officially Resurrection of Israel state, Israel Chosen People and God Language.
Next logical step – to make God Language native to your children but you and your husband strongly oppose.
3 You focus on my not so good English.
Why don’t you focus on my calculation that proves that to reach standard life quality today we need in 3.2 times more working hours a week at everyone family member that we had 50 years ago.
So the average inflation of value of one working hour was 320% for last 50 years.
The inflation of dollar for last 50 years is 628%.
Wage increasing for last 50 years is 1077%.
Life standard quality increasing for last 50 years only at 1077/628=1.71times.
It is a very bad social result for global rapid science technical progress for last 50 years.
4 About myth of needful of twice increasing staff – to achieve symmetrical lifestyle.
Let us propose that we have enterprise that works 24 hours a day all year long.
It means that it is a very successful business that has full pocket of orders.
Most people today work in this type of business in three shifts – day time, evening time, night time 7 working hours averagely.
Every week they have to change their shift and time when the must sleep.
There is a paradox – those type of business organization are extremely effective because all technological equipment works 24 hours a day all year but most staff who must every week change there working shift fill physically bad.
In symmetrical lifestyle the same quantity of workers from those 3 shifts will be organized in 4 shifts that work 26 weeks a year, 60 hours a week, with one day off a week.
In future almost all competitive businesses will work 24 hours a day all year and people will live in symmetrical life style with 26 weeks of creative vocation a year.
In working time people will see their kids with ability to communicate with them using computer communications systems.
If something wrong at school or in the street with their kids – parents can adjust the situation immediately.
Formally you had in previous model of job organization 3 workers on a job place and symmetrical life demands 4 workers on a same job place.
So formally in the case when you don’t want to change absolutely anything you have to increase your staff at 33% - the same present you decrease the working week and not twice of course.
But in reality in most businesses we need not do it.
Every business owner can find reserves to increase effectiveness of work.
In future development of symmetrical lifestyle world people will not work 10 hours shifts they will work not more than 8 working hours shifts, one day a week off and 26 weeks of creative vocation.
All businesses will work 24 hours all year but symmetrical lifestyle people no more than 48 hours a week.
Transport, hospitals, restaurants,theaters,schools, universities, scientist laboratories, government organizations, shops, sport clubs will work effectively 24 hours a day with out days off. in symmetrical lifestyle society of lifelong high educated multiprofessional persons.
5 About drugs’ abusing.
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/he...ments-best-buy-drugs-antidepressants-rep.html
Between 1996 and 2005, the rate of those reporting they had used antidepressants in the past year jumped from 5.8 percent to 10.1 percent. On a national scale, this translates to an increase from about 13.3 million people to 27 million.
We note in our new Best Buy Drug report on antidepressants that 60 percent to 70 percent of people with depression don’t receive the treatment they need.
So it is clear that others 54 millions instead antidepressants use marijuana and drugs.
May be somebody is waiting when all high developed world society will become antidepressant users or different drugs’ and alcohol abusers to change ordinary running from freedom lifestyle to symmetrical one – running for freedom.
1 When I proposed to use Holy Resurrected Language as global lingual frank for all God believers worldwide you proposed Esperanto.
2 When I proposed to your husband - Evangelistic Church pastor to become the main person in process of learning the Resurrected Language of their God by kids of 200 millions Evangelistic Christians all over the world your husband has refused.
Evangelistic Christians recognize officially Resurrection of Israel state, Israel Chosen People and God Language.
Next logical step – to make God Language native to your children but you and your husband strongly oppose.
3 You focus on my not so good English.
Why don’t you focus on my calculation that proves that to reach standard life quality today we need in 3.2 times more working hours a week at everyone family member that we had 50 years ago.
So the average inflation of value of one working hour was 320% for last 50 years.
The inflation of dollar for last 50 years is 628%.
Wage increasing for last 50 years is 1077%.
Life standard quality increasing for last 50 years only at 1077/628=1.71times.
It is a very bad social result for global rapid science technical progress for last 50 years.
4 About myth of needful of twice increasing staff – to achieve symmetrical lifestyle.
Let us propose that we have enterprise that works 24 hours a day all year long.
It means that it is a very successful business that has full pocket of orders.
Most people today work in this type of business in three shifts – day time, evening time, night time 7 working hours averagely.
Every week they have to change their shift and time when the must sleep.
There is a paradox – those type of business organization are extremely effective because all technological equipment works 24 hours a day all year but most staff who must every week change there working shift fill physically bad.
In symmetrical lifestyle the same quantity of workers from those 3 shifts will be organized in 4 shifts that work 26 weeks a year, 60 hours a week, with one day off a week.
In future almost all competitive businesses will work 24 hours a day all year and people will live in symmetrical life style with 26 weeks of creative vocation a year.
In working time people will see their kids with ability to communicate with them using computer communications systems.
If something wrong at school or in the street with their kids – parents can adjust the situation immediately.
Formally you had in previous model of job organization 3 workers on a job place and symmetrical life demands 4 workers on a same job place.
So formally in the case when you don’t want to change absolutely anything you have to increase your staff at 33% - the same present you decrease the working week and not twice of course.
But in reality in most businesses we need not do it.
Every business owner can find reserves to increase effectiveness of work.
In future development of symmetrical lifestyle world people will not work 10 hours shifts they will work not more than 8 working hours shifts, one day a week off and 26 weeks of creative vocation.
All businesses will work 24 hours all year but symmetrical lifestyle people no more than 48 hours a week.
Transport, hospitals, restaurants,theaters,schools, universities, scientist laboratories, government organizations, shops, sport clubs will work effectively 24 hours a day with out days off. in symmetrical lifestyle society of lifelong high educated multiprofessional persons.
5 About drugs’ abusing.
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/he...ments-best-buy-drugs-antidepressants-rep.html
Between 1996 and 2005, the rate of those reporting they had used antidepressants in the past year jumped from 5.8 percent to 10.1 percent. On a national scale, this translates to an increase from about 13.3 million people to 27 million.
We note in our new Best Buy Drug report on antidepressants that 60 percent to 70 percent of people with depression don’t receive the treatment they need.
So it is clear that others 54 millions instead antidepressants use marijuana and drugs.
May be somebody is waiting when all high developed world society will become antidepressant users or different drugs’ and alcohol abusers to change ordinary running from freedom lifestyle to symmetrical one – running for freedom.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?
And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?
When the stars threw down their spears,
And water'd heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee?
Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
-William Blake
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?
And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?
When the stars threw down their spears,
And water'd heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee?
Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
-William Blake
Nonpareil
The Terrible Trivium
Fixed.
No.
Do you have a source for these numbers? Or did you get them from Uranus?
Who said that?
See, this is why no one trusts your math. 7x3=21, not 24.
Gibberish.
So you work them to death. Most people work ~40 hours/week, with TWO days off.
We have this already. It's just that employers generally frown on personal calls during work hours.
More later, when I have time.
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Where are people changing shifts? I know people who've worked graveyard shift for years and years. They never work day shifts or evening shifts. They prefer the graveyard shift so they can be there when their kids go to school and get home.
I can't completely follow your math (but then again, I've only got a bachelors degree in it), but it seems that you're saying a company will have to hire four people where they would previously had hired three. That will cost more, not just in salaries, but in benefits. Will employers have to pay benefits to employees who are in their "off" season? Won't that just be asking for abuse? Somebody could collect six months worth of benefits, and then decide to quit right before being called back to their "on" shift.
My business is fairly competitive, but we work with kids, and I don't think we'll ever be calling them in to see us at 2 o'clock in the morning. I also don't want to live in a city/area that has a lot of 24-hour businesses. I like that my sleepy little town goes dark at night.
How will this work with children who are too young to use the computer? And do you really think that employers will want their employees monitoring their kids or helping them with their homework when they're supposed to be working? Is a computer connection a proper substitute for hands-on parenting? Will the computer get my kids to soccer practice or piano lessons, or cook them dinner after school? I'm going to guess that either you don't have kids, or you didn't provide much actual care for them. Working 60 hours per week is NOT conducive to a quality family life.
And the big bonus for business owners who increase the effectiveness of their workers is that they'll now pay more employees the same exact wages for doing fewer hours of work - score!!
Score again! Those business owners have no idea how good they're going to have it! They can increase their staff and their expenses. They can pay their staff full-time wages while they're on vacation for one half of the year, and monitoring their kids' activities the other half of the year.
All businesses? Would that include movie theatres, schools, dental practices, new home construction, carpet-cleaners, electronic stores, landscaping services, etc. etc.? The whole world can just take shifts on when they live their lives. Young children can go to school at midnight. Oh my goodness, what comes next:
You really think you have something. Who is going to be living their lives at 3 o'clock in the morning?
Crystal clear. People who don't receive proper medical treatment for their depression are all using marijuana and other drugs. None of them are going untreated.
Of all the crazy that you're spinning, I'm having the hardest time seeing how drug use has anything to do with depression or people who are "running from freedom." I've never suffered from depression, I don't do drugs, I value the free time that I have, and I absolutely don't want any part of your so-called symmetric lifestyle.
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