Lord Language Resurrection.

[The_Fire]

Christ undoubtedly could read and understand Torah on Holy Language.
But HE made his preaching on Aramaic Persian Imperil language - the language that HE hated because Aramaic was a killer of Holy Language from HIS Chosen People native using.

Source for this claim?

 

[The_Fire]

You do realize there are far more than 4 religions, yes? Where do Wicca, Shinto, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Taoism, and the whole pantheon of native religions in Africa, Australia, and Oceania fit in? How about the "dead" religions of the Greeks, Romans, Norse, Celts, and more?




Wei?

Norse? Do you mean Asatrue? In that case it's not dead. Well, not anymore.
Google fu Forn Sidr..... And please note it's actually recognised by the state as a beliefsystem.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan
Christ undoubtedly could read and understand Torah on Holy Language.
But HE made his preaching on Aramaic Persian Imperil language - the language that HE hated because Aramaic was a killer of Holy Language from HIS Chosen People native using.

Source for this claim?

The fact, that we have no New Testament on the language of Jews, Christ and Apostles of that time – Aramaic proves this thesis.
The fact that Christian Church did not take care about preserving the language of Christ and Apostles preaching proves this thesis too.

 

[The_Fire]

The fact, that we have no New Testament on the language of Jews, Christ and Apostles of that time – Aramaic proves this thesis.

The fact that Christian Church did not take care about preserving the language of Christ and Apostles preaching proves this thesis too.

Ah, no. That just proves cultural evolution. You know: One cultural part of the demographics becomming more prominent than others making their language the predominant one and making other languages obsolete. When they actually got around to writing down the new testament, aramaic were no longer a major language. And besides, the dead sea scrolls, of which parts have been argued to be the first written down accounts of the jesus-mythology, was actually written in Aramaic, so that would be an epic fail on history for you.

Got anything else than speculation? As in solid proof or some reputable sources NOT originating in your own head?

Har du noget bedre?

 

[David Swidler]

Let's see what we can do with this nutty claim.

Yes, I, the token orthodox Jew on the forum who does in fact believe that Moses was onto something, dismiss the original post as nutty.

We shall, for purposes of this post, grant a number of assumptions that the OP will presumably accept, but that, outside this thread, remain hotly disputed at best and disregarded at worst.

1. The Torah that we have today is substantially (if not verbatim) the same as when it was written.
2. The "original" language was, in fact, Hebrew.

Now, even within those parameters the OP's claim doesn't stand, because the Torah itself uses languages other than Hebrew to make its point - not to mention other parts of the Tanakh, which resort to Aramic and Perso-Median.

That means that even from the perspective that the Pentateuch is a unified whole there is room for, even a positive purpose to, other languages. For example, Genesis uses an Aramaic phrase in explicit translation of the name Jacob gave to the monument he made with Laban. Why bother translating "gal-'ed" into "y'gar sahadutha" if the Aramaic doesn't convey anything the Hebrew didn't? (remember, this is even if we accept the unity of Scripture and don't assume later interpolations).

Then there's Joseph's title in Egyptian (tzophnath pa'aneah), with no Hebrew, even though the entire narrative is Hebrew.

The resurrection of Hebrew and the Jewish return to Israel may well indicate the fulfillment of ancient prophecies, but to go from that to suggesting that everyone learn Hebrew is laughable, even from a traditional Jewish perspective. Judaism never claimed to be a universal religion, so what would be the point?

 

[Beerina]

Wasn't the Tower of Babel story about the worry that humanity would stay concentrated instead of spreading out? Or about the worry that humans would make a tower tall enough to reach Heaven?

Well, we now know both of those fears were unfounded. Contrary to the Bible, the universe isn't a space filled with chaotic waters, with the solid "vault" above and the earth below keeping us safe in a pocket of air.

So no tower could reach "Heaven" because it's space for billions of light years, not a solid barrier.

And we also know humanity would spread out as it grew, like any other organism, and that languages develop and change and evolve, as does the culture of the humans moving around.


So if this god feared these things, he wasn't a very smart god.

 

[Hokulele]

Norse? Do you mean Asatrue? In that case it's not dead. Well, not anymore.
Google fu Forn Sidr..... And please note it's actually recognised by the state as a beliefsystem.

Ah, thanks for the correction. Seeing as how this is a resurrected belief system, clearly it is meant to be the 6th (7th?) MAIN EVENT, so now everyone must learn Danish and praise Odin!

 

[six7s]

Ah, thanks for the correction. Seeing as how this is a resurrected belief system, clearly it is meant to be the 6th (7th?) MAIN EVENT, so now everyone must learn Danish and praise Odin!

Does that mean we'll get Thursday's off?

Cool!

This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

Thursdays

 

[six7s]

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[bobrayner]

Norse? Do you mean Asatrue? In that case it's not dead. Well, not anymore.
Google fu Forn Sidr..... And please note it's actually recognised by the state as a beliefsystem.

Which state recognises it?
(And does that mean it's only a valid belief-system in some countries? )

 

[slingblade]

Sling, your facility with English shines through with your every post. I wish everyone were as capable with communication. I knew I became a slingbladist for a reason.

Oh yeah? Well, I dance the Hoku-Pokey every morning in your honor, cuz that's what it's all about!

 

[The_Fire]

hok: He....That would make old danish/scandinavian the main language and runes the main lettering system. To bad the only place they speak something remotely like the old nordic languages is Iceland....

Which state recognises it?
(And does that mean it's only a valid belief-system in some countries? )

Oh, sorry; The State is what we call the government arround here and yes, that makes asatrue a valid beliefsystem in Denmark.


Thursdays off? Hmm.....There's a reason to convert.....

 

[I Ratant]

Oh yeah? Well, I dance the Hoku-Pokey every morning in your honor, cuz that's what it's all about!

.
I'd heard the hokey-pokey had died not long ago.
The funeral was delayed at the morgue, after they tried to put the left leg in the coffin..

 

[slingblade]

.
I'd heard the hokey-pokey had died not long ago.
The funeral was delayed at the morgue, after they tried to put the left leg in the coffin..

Not the Hokey-Pokey. The Hoku...oh, never mind. It's a Hokulele thing. You might not understand.


But you will, Young Skywalker. You will.

 

[Hokulele]

Not the Hokey-Pokey. The Hoku...oh, never mind. It's a Hokulele thing. You might not understand.


But you will, Young Skywalker. You will.

Aaand I have a new line for my signature.

 

[vIQleS]

If not, my vote then goes to Klingon.

tlhIngan Hol is actually a very logical language and the grammar is very easy to learn. I highly recommend it...

Qapla'!


(sorry - I couldn't find any klingon smilies.)

Something...

The irony here just hit me - finally a nutjob who can figure out how to use the quote button, but he doesn't actually reply to the quotes that he's quoting

Okay, I'll bite -- what are these six SUPER MAIN deals?

Big Mac Supercombo
Double wopper w/cheese
...

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

The resurrection of Hebrew and the Jewish return to Israel may well indicate the fulfillment of ancient prophecies, but to go from that to suggesting that everyone learn Hebrew is laughable, even from a traditional Jewish perspective. Judaism never claimed to be a universal religion, so what would be the point?

Aramaic is not a Holy language.
Biblical Hebrew is a Holy language.

Israel – the state of 12 tribes was a great absolutely sovereign state only in the time of Solomon and partly in the time of David.
That’s why we call our resurrected state not “Jewishia”, not “Judea”, but ISRAEL – the same, as it was called in Moshe – Solomon time.

If all had depended from Judaism religious elite - we will see today the state “Evreia” with Aramaic state’ language – the language of Talmud on the place of Israel State.
But all depend from God!
HE oppose the dream of Judaism elite to make the language of Talmud the language of Jewish people had resurrected for them the Holy Language and not only for them, but for all monotheistic religious God believers from all nationals.
National – Hebrew Resurrected Holy languages bilingual Global World will very soon exist !

 

[wollery]

[Prewitt81]Nope[/Prewitt81]

 

[six7s]

But all depend from God!
HE oppose the dream of Judaism elite...

@ Nationalcosmopolitan: Please Note

This is not www.forums.woo.com

This forum is a "place to discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly and lively way"

So far, your contribution to this thread has been nothing more than a succession of barely intelligible nonsense, dwelling on some (as far as we know) mythical and contradictory deity invented by ignorant people who had a God-shaped hole in their heads

Unless you want to be regarded as a troll and/or nutter, please:

• Take the time to get your thoughts composed to the point where they actually makes sense.
  AltaVista Babel Fish provides online text and web page language translation!
  
• Support your claims with something substantial, i.e please STOP posting until you can and have both defined and provided evidence for your god and his wishes

Thank you

 

[Complexity]

There are several languages that I'd like to learn.

Hebrew has never been on this list.

Tell your 'god' that she should have chosen a better and more interesting language.

It doesn't even have vowels, if I remember correctly, at least in the written language.

Welsh, Greek, Japanese - these are all languages one can sink one's teeth into.

Hebrew? It has a literature that doesn't interest me at all. It's proponents claim that "My mommy thinks I'm special." The only thing going for it is that Cantor used aleph in his work, and I think that is only because the best Greek letters had already been taken.

Study it if you like, but I think you're wasting your time.

Oh, by the way - thank you for not forcing us to learn it. That would have been... interesting.