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Well, I'm not sure why Occam should take the blame, but maybe...
Occam's Katamari?

You NEVER throw anything away, you just keep rolling it up bigger and bigger...
 
Paranormal hat resurfaces at LC forum

Everyone who's been here a while will remember Carlos, latinjral, and their "paranormal hat." For newcomers, these two posted here a couple of years ago in a thread that was probably as long as this one, claiming that a video they had of the Twin Towers on 9/11 showed some high-speed anomaly. It was obvious to everyone with a brain, but these two thought that it was something paranormal. In one frame, the blurred image was vaguely hat-shaped, so got the term "paranormal hat" applied to it.

Well, guess what. This thread over at the LC forum makes the same exact claim, but with a different video. Right after flight 175 crashes into the South Tower, a bird flies across the foreground, and from that perspective it's right across the image of the South Tower.

I would post over there explaining this to them, but alas, I've been banned. Well, suspended for two months. After a PM conversation with TheQuest, reminding him that I've always been sincere and not insulting, he sends me this note: "Curtc, sorry I renegged. I just can't have you wasting our time here. Most people here 'get it' rather quickly. For all I know, you may be a purposeful time-waster or just a honest "slow" person. Either way, we need to advance with activism and we can waste no more time on you right now. Nothing personal. Just business. I am suspending you for 60 days or at least long enough so that we can get some things accomplished."

So truth gets the shaft in favor of "just business."
 
Scary

CurtC said:
I would post over there explaining this to them, but alas, I've been banned. Well, suspended for two months. After a PM conversation with TheQuest, reminding him that I've always been sincere and not insulting, he sends me this note: "Curtc, sorry I renegged. I just can't have you wasting our time here. Most people here 'get it' rather quickly. For all I know, you may be a purposeful time-waster or just a honest "slow" person. Either way, we need to advance with activism and we can waste no more time on you right now. Nothing personal. Just business. I am suspending you for 60 days or at least long enough so that we can get some things accomplished."
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Whoa! That kind of thinking, the absolute conviction that one's beliefs are so obviously and unquestionably true that no other views should even be allowed to be uttered, is exactly the sort of thing that drives people to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings.
 
Dr Adequate said:
If Dylan Avery had made JFK ...
* No bullets were in fact fired. Kennedy's head was rigged with explosives and destroyed in a controlled demolition.
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This is the part where I lol'ed.

I could go post on LC, but I'm afraid someone would recognize my name from my last pre-shutdown rampage on the United 93 boards (I chose this name mostly to yank the chains of easily offended CT's who wouldn't like someone using the word "Truth" without thier say-so).
 
CurtC said:
"Curtc, sorry I renegged. I just can't have you wasting our time here. Most people here 'get it' rather quickly. For all I know, you may be a purposeful time-waster or just a honest "slow" person. Either way, we need to advance with activism and we can waste no more time on you right now. Nothing personal. Just business. I am suspending you for 60 days or at least long enough so that we can get some things accomplished."

So truth gets the shaft in favor of "just business."
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(emphasis mine)

Man, these guys are starting to sound like terrorist survivalists. I'm starting to worry...
 
Stellafane said:
Whoa! That kind of thinking, the absolute conviction that one's beliefs are so obviously and unquestionably true that no other views should even be allowed to be uttered, is exactly the sort of thing that drives people to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings.
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Perhaps it's the reason they're able to identify with and believe in the bizarre and ultimately counterproductive behaviors hypothesized in the various CTs.
It's the sort of thing they would do, if they had the power.
 
Pardalis said:
(emphasis mine)

Man, these guys are starting to sound like terrorist survivalists. I'm starting to worry...
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Don't worry. Do you honestly think they are doing anything other than patting each other on their backs on the LC forum, showing pride over their advanced intelligence and abilities to see through the most complicated conspiracies?

Heck, I'm still banned for the next few days, and all I did was ask what the rules about banning were.
 
its very obvious now that the loosers have started their own cult. whenever someone goes in there asking questions this is what they reply with:

You ask a common question that can be easily addressed and debunked. I first recommend the following, watch THEN we can discuss. We must be on the same page:

www.UniversalSeed.org
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pretty much they want you to be brainwashed by all the awful BS "crock-u-mentaries" on that site BEFORE discussing. hmm.. interesting.

ive been banned from that board as well, but i always want to ask them this. whenever someone asks how many people would have to be involved in the coverup, someone always answers with "they were paid off to keep quiet"

Now, how much money would it take you to live with the guilt of knowing you were part of the death and destruction of 3,000 lives?

i hit a squirrel with my car once and felt bad, imagine what would have to be going through the minds of these so called Demolitionists if they were part responsible or anyone that was involved in this. its ridiculous to think that, the loosers never put anything into perspective.
 
Wow...those LC guys just became even more stupid. Imagine what they would accomplish without some sense being directed at them? One can only wonder....
 
I have an idea.

The Loose Screws crowd has theologians and economists to tell them why the WTC collapsed. And that's thier biggest problem, they have no structural engineers on thier side. Now I know you all know this already, but here's my point...

Why don't they produce thier own experts?

By that I mean literally produce thier own structural engineers. It's simple, get a bunch of them to throw 1000$ each into the education pot, pick a fresh high school grad from among them (if ever there was a movement all but deliberately designed to attract know-it-all teen punks, the truthseeker cult is it) and use the education pot to pay his way through to becoming a real live structural engineer.

How long can it take? 5, maybe 7 years or so? They have time, there's no statute of limitations on high treason, crimes against the constitution and 2,800 counts of first degree murder. They'll have thier precious structural engineer and they will finally be able to go ahead with thier case against whoever they plan to put on the indictment.

Or at least that's how it works in theory.

Wouldn't you all love to be a fly on the wall at the LC2SE (Loose Change 2 Structural Engineer) graduation party?

LC2SE: Guys, I have something to tell you... those bastards at JREF... they were right all along. You people are a bunch of friggin idiots.

Avery: And you're not?

LC2SE:Of course not... ~I~ got an education, remember?
 
WildCat said:
Posting Gravy's document on the looser forum is now a bannable offense. :D

Must be working!:cool:
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That was my previous... I mean, that was me before I got site-banned and could no longer access those forums. Yeah. :)

A few other posters are still referencing Gravy's work, either positively or negatively, and have yet to be banned. So it's seeping into the general consciousness.

Or so I hear.
 
from the loose change forums...
The buildings failed at the floors where trhe fire was burning. The heat warped the steel columns. Those columns have to be properly alligned. You put them out of allignment, the building collapses. The collapse of the structure above was more than the remaining structure below could withstand.

Thewre was enoguh heat in the building to warp steel. It starts to expand sufficiently at 50 F to require expansion jopints on road structures. In a fire hot enough to melt aluminum, they will expand even more, and not very evenly. Doesn't matter how much weight shifts from one column to another if both columns are warped.
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lefty, to understand that 911 was an inside job, you don't need science. You need simple math.

Prior to 911, no steel framed building in history ever 'collapsed' due to fire, yet on 911, not one, not 2 but 3 steel-framed buildings 'collapsed' because of fire, Furhtermore, these buioldings were all located within a few hundred yards of each other. Further still, they all collapsed within 7 hours of each other.

Now, what are the mathematical odds of these coinciding unusual events being 'coincidence'?
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i really don't even know what to say to that... :S

ANYWAYS, i may have purchased a couple fun domain names (loosescrews911.com, loosechangesucks.com), hehe, and i may be looking for some fun ideas. anyone have any fun suggestions?
 
Many on the LC forum seem to be asking for a De-bunking of Gravy's doc., and in their fanaticism they expect there to be one.

I'm anxious to see one too.

BTW We need more obnoxious smilies over here!
 
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