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geggy said:
Hey thanks for providing even more evidence that there were molten steel in WTC. I've never seen that picture before. I'm having hard times debating with people because most of the people here are full of contradictions. You said there was no molten steel in the past now youre showing me a picture of molten steel. How am I supposed to take you seriously? By the way do you really think that look anything like burning fuel? Sure as hell look a lot like thermite liquid pouring over.
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Hey, Giggy, I want to mention a couple things to you.

Iron, copper, zinc, silver, aluminum, gold....

All of these are metals. Gravy showed you a picture of molten metal. You were the one who made the leap to molten steel. Nobody here claimed that was a picture of steel. Be very careful about putting words in people's mouths, as it does not help you or your argument to look good.

As people have pointed out, the frame of the building had a great deal of aluminum in it, which melts at a low temperature. It is quite likely that's what you are looking at.
 
geggy said:
Because of amerika's treachery, saddam decided to turn his back away to america's orders that lead to the toppling of saddam before ameica could install another puppet in the iraqi government.
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So there are no dictators in this world? I'm sure you had the same sympathy for Kim Jong Ill, Ceausescu, Idi Amin Dada, Augusto Pinochet, Fidel Castro, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Staline...........

Lets see how you can accuse the US of having manipulated all these nice fellows. Go ahead f**ker.
 
geggy said:
I'm having hard times debating with people because most of the people here are full of contradictions. You said there was no molten steel in the past now youre showing me a picture of molten steel.
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geggy, you have been told time and time again, that there was molten aluminum at the scene, something which is perfectly in keeping with the version of events which is accepted by every expert who has looked into the WTC collapses. Nobody denies that there was molten METAL at the site, but there was no molten steel. therefore there is no contradiction.
as you believe tat there was molten steel at the site, you must also accept that there was molten aluminum at the site, unless you believe that TEH GLOBALISTS somehow managed to melt steel, whilst leaving he much greater volumes of aluminum in tact.
What makes you assume that the molten metal in the picture was molten steel (which only CTers believe was there) as opposed to being molten aluminum, which practically everyone believes was there?
You still haven't acknowledged that molten metal falling on wtc7 would start significant fires.
This is just another example of you making giant leaps of something which barely resembles logic, and reaching a totally wrong conclusion, which even if it where true, would still demolish another plank of your conspiracy theory.
 
You see steel I see Aluminum

geggy said:
Hey thanks for providing even more evidence that there were molten steel in WTC. I've never seen that picture before.


What a hoot - all melting metal is steel?

Could that be the skin of the building - aluminum? Nahh - that's burnin' steel!

I'm reminded of the now old line - arguing on the Internet is like winning the special Olympics - you may win, but. . .
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NobbyNobbs said:
Hey, Giggy, I want to mention a couple things to you.

Iron, copper, zinc, silver, aluminum, gold....

All of these are metals. Gravy showed you a picture of molten metal. You were the one who made the leap to molten steel. Nobody here claimed that was a picture of steel. Be very careful about putting words in people's mouths, as it does not help you or your argument to look good.

As people have pointed out, the frame of the building had a great deal of aluminum in it, which melts at a low temperature. It is quite likely that's what you are looking at.
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Google also likes to argue alternately that there was no heat source hot enough to "melt hair" before the collapse, but there were pools of molten steel weeks after the collapse.

How this is supposed to support a controlled demolition theory is a mystery to me.
 
geggy said:
Amerika was responsible of installing Saddam as a puppet in government of Iraq to obey america orders.
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That conveniently ignores the fact that Saddam was working with the Soviets.

Rummy and Saddam meets...

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Big deal. I can produce pictures of a President of the US shaking hands with a dictator who killed 10's of millions of his own people as well millions of people outside his country. The pictures were taken at a special council of elite types who were planning how to divide the world amongst themselves.

Look it up sometime, it was called 'The Yalta Conference'.

Because of amerika's treachery,
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Oooh. America with a 'K', straight from the Calvin Klein Communist tactic book.

saddam decided to turn his back away to america's orders that lead to the toppling of saddam before ameica could install another puppet in the iraqi government.
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Could you show more ignorance of Iraqi history?
 
geggy said:
Interestingly you would bring up national geographic. The editor of the magazine who is a female, she herself is an asset to the CIA. Can't remember what exactly her name was. I'm only trying to firgure out who were the real culprit so that way justice can be brought to the victims, how is that disrepectful to the fallen?
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Giggle,
The editor-in-chief of Nat'l Geo, since Jan '05, is Chris Johns. Not a woman. He was a photographer for 17 years prior to his appointment.
Before that was Bill Allen. Also not a woman. Editor for ten years, starting in 1995.
What the hell are you on about, Gigilo?
Why are you always so thoroughly, hopelessly wrong?
 
chipmunk stew said:
Giggle,
The editor-in-chief of Nat'l Geo, since Jan '05, is Chris Johns. Not a woman. He was a photographer for 17 years prior to his appointment.
Before that was Bill Allen. Also not a woman. Editor for ten years, starting in 1995.
What the hell are you on about, Gigilo?
Why are you always so thoroughly, hopelessly wrong?
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Damn. I've never encountered someone who is wrong MORE often. Ever.
 
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geggy said:
Amerika was responsible of installing Saddam as a puppet in government of Iraq to obey america orders.

Because of amerika's treachery, saddam decided to turn his back away to america's orders that lead to the toppling of saddam before ameica could install another puppet in the iraqi government.
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So you're also ignorant of world history, are you ?

I'm sure there are a few dogs out there that are more knowledgeable than you.
 
Belz... said:
Damn. I've never encountered someone who is wrong MORE often. Ever.
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You have to wonder if he qualifies for the million dollar prize for being psychic. Being wrong so consistently has to be just about as probable as being right.
 
This thread is getting painful to read.

Gidget reminds me of the Black Knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" except that he doesn't realize that it's time to give up when his arms and legs have been hacked off. It's like all that left is his mouth, his windpipe, half a lung, and the tiniest bit of brainstem screaming "You don't want to debate me! I'll kickyerazz!" And when spit on, shouts "Thanks for the ammunition I can use against you!"

It's over. It's been over for pages now.



PS - The more common term for "tenths of centuries" is "decades".
 
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Yet it doesn't make you suspicious at all. Seriously you're probably one of the most mind controlled people. It's in my view that if not enough people wake up to this corporate destruction of our flawed democracy then America is screwed. I may leave this country in the fourth wave of people or stay to pick up the pieces, but it's not an out if I leave, it might be a break, a breather, a change, but there is no out. The planet is too small for there to be an out anywhere.

Examples of past failure "independant" investigations that NIST either has led or participated in include:

terrorist bombing, Murrah Federal Building, Oklahoma City, Okla., 1995;
terrorist bombing, World Trade Center, New York, N.Y., 1993;
building fire, Happylands Social Club, Bronx, N.Y., 1992;
building fire, Dupont Plaza Hotel, San Juan, Puerto Rico, 1986;
collapse of walkway, Hyatt Regency Hotel, Kansas City, Mo., 1981; and
condominium collapse, Cocoa Beach, Fla., 1981...
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Dang...i cant remember who she was. She probably wasn't an editor but perhaps a reporter, and she contributed to the inside 9/11 documentary. There is just too much info in my brain, I can't recollect every one of them everytime.

Saddam was an asset to the cia and was on their payroll until before the start of the gulf war in 1990 when he invaded US's ally, kuwait and send his relationship with the US and CIA to a bitter end. History is not what you think as it is in this excessively secretive world that we live in.

By the way why hasn't Osama thanked Bush for removing Saddam out of power?
 
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