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And? Once again I ask how did you expect WTC7 to collapse.

I didn't answer because I don't think it would have collapsed.

It burned for seven hours completely uncontrolled. Evidence has shown that burning office materials are more than sufficient to cause structural problems for even intact buildings. Study the Meridian fire in Philadelphia sometime and learn something real for a change.

I already did and it's right here. Didn't say anything about collapsing.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html

Plus, 9th to 19th floor of a wtc tower burned for 3 hours and the temperture reached at 700 degrees C in 1975 and yet it didn't collapse.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/WTC_apndxA.htm

So what ya talking about?

Golly. Cuz nothing says 'fireproof' like thousands of tons of burning debris falling on you.

There was no visible flaming debris falling from the towers so what ya talking about?
 
i've let my mom and dad and uncle know if anything happens to me to come here and get the word out.

But what if "the Man" has gotten to THEM?? And what if the cat isn't really a cat, but an autonomous house-based CIA surveillance mammaloid??? STOP STARING AT ME!

This is too much fun.
 
btw: "FinalStrike's" avatar isn't a picture of him. It's some "Loose Change" debunker that he's mocking!
 
Plus, 9th to 19th floor of a wtc tower burned for 3 hours and the temperture reached at 700 degrees C in 1975 and yet it didn't collapse.
Wrong again, O fixéd star of foolishness! Only the 11th floor had significant fire damage. It was a 3-alarm fire, and the fire department had full access to it.

Can't you get anything right, even by accident? CTers like to talk about the "odds" of things on 9/11. What are the odds that geggy would get EVERYTHING wrong? He hasn't been right in a single encounter I've had with him. And he keeps coming back! Like I said, this is too much fun.
 
Wrong again, O fixéd star of foolishness! Only the 11th floor had significant fire damage. It was a 3-alarm fire, and the fire department had full access to it.

Can't you get anything right, even by accident? CTers like to talk about the "odds" of things on 9/11. What are the odds that geggy would get EVERYTHING wrong? He hasn't been right in a single encounter I've had with him. And he keeps coming back! Like I said, this is too much fun.

Right, intense fire burning at 700 degree C on 11th floor with small fire that's spreaded from 9th to 19th floor with the rest of the top of 90 stories weighing down on the affected area.

By the way do you have any good link on what may have started the fires in WTC7 that I should check out?
 
I'm willing to have a debate on what may have started the fire in wtc7 if you provide me the link...
 
By the way do you have any good link on what may have started the fires in WTC7 that I should check out?
I don't have a good link (I'm on dial-up) to why, but I'm willing to bet it comes from the explosions and flaming wreckage that occured when the planes hit the towers.
 
Look bucko you really don't want to goad me into sept 11 debate, I will wax your official story believin arse and make you want butt sex...
 
I didn't answer because I don't think it would have collapsed.

There's your problem.

I already did and it's right here. Didn't say anything about collapsing.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html

This is where you are an idiot. You get your information solely from conspiracy websites without seeing what actually took place.

The Meridian fire was a dang near thing. The fire nearly resulted in a collapse, and the only reason that the fire did not cause collapse is that the fire was fought (unlike WTC7) and the sprinkler system reactivated. The PFD abandoned the firefighting effort since there were indications that the building was going to collapse.

Neverthless, the Meridian fire was as close to collapse by fire as we've come in the USA. Once the fire was out, the building was wrapped in a hideous netting to prevent not only falling objects, but in the event that the building would actually collapse anyway.

Ask your conspiracy websites where the Meridian Building is today. Go on, ask them. Never mind, I'll tell you.

Insurance companies hoped to repair the Meridian. After much legal wrangling a structural engineer was sent in to inspect the building. He basicly wrote the report that in short said: "No freaking way". The building was condemned (despite legal wrangling by the insurance company that result in them being fined). The engineer basicly stated that he was afraid to even be in the building. That's how close it came to collapsing. That is with 11 hours of firefighting. That is with the firefighting system intact (such as it was in 1991), that is without damage to the structure. Advantages that WTC7 never had.

These are details you won't find on your conspiracy websites. Because all they say is 'Still standing, hah!', never mind that the Merdian had to be brought down with an external crane as tall as the building itself designed to take parts off the top like you were unbuilding a house of cards. But its 'still standing' is the lie of ommission you hear from the WTC crowd.


Plus, 9th to 19th floor of a wtc tower burned for 3 hours and the temperture reached at 700 degrees C in 1975 and yet it didn't collapse.

That fire was fought, that fire faced an intact fire prevention system. If that fire was in one of the main towers, they faced thicker structural systems since they were on lower floors. These are advantages the building had in its defense. Ones it did not have on 9/11.

There was no visible flaming debris falling from the towers so what ya talking about?

You can see through all that debris? How interesting. Most of us couldn't. But that fire was still burning when the tower collapsed. Do you think fire just goes away becuase the towers fall?
 
Look bucko you really don't want to goad me into sept 11 debate, I will wax your official story believin arse and make you want butt sex...

Oh please. Don't make us laugh. You've all but run crying and spraying irrelevant links and that is all you can do. You've pretended that asking questions is the same as evidence and you deliberately ignored evidence that was put right in front of you. All of your links are from biased conspiracy sites and your fiasco of claiming that you researched the Meridian fire proves just that.

Just insulting the 'official story' does not make for 'debate' .
 
Right, intense fire burning at 700 degree C on 11th floor with small fire that's spreaded from 9th to 19th floor with the rest of the top of 90 stories weighing down on the affected area.

By the way do you have any good link on what may have started the fires in WTC7 that I should check out?
Wrong yet again, my fixéd and ever-shining light of ignorance. The fire burned on part of the 11th floor. It never left the concrete cable shaft on any other floors. It did not spread "from the 9th to the 19th floor."

That said, geggy, can you think of any other differences between the 1975 fire and the incidents on 9/11?

You may have to think real hard for this one.

You keep avoiding facts by jumping from subject to subject. Let's just focus on this one thing, and get that resolved before moving on, okay? Just focus on this, and when we finish it, we'll move on to the next thing. That way you can learn things.

So, since you brought it up, please tell me what differences you can think of between the 1975 fire and the incidents on 9/11. Making a list might be helpful. How about just limiting it to five items. That's not too hard, right?
 
Little friend, here's hoping (as I have for others similarly involved) you make this issue your life's work. Sincerely, will you embrace 9/11 and dedicate yourself day and night for as long as it takes, even if it's forever? Please do.

You say you're, what, 29? So you've got something along the lines of fifty years left. Fifty years you can spend posting your links and sharing your home-made videos with the few who will listen. Five decades of frustration and anxiety as you cry out again and again, "Free fall! WTC7! Squibs!"

Then when you are lying, dying in a hospital bed, surrounded by however many friends and family you manage to acquire and maintain gathered to say their goodbyes, look them in the eyes, each one, and try to reconcile how you gave them all the finger with your immersion in your sad, sad game for all those years.

Imagine that. Do it.

You're wedded to a myth. A myth. Not even a good one, like some can be. And it certainly isn't a good conspiracy theory. That you imagine there is anything to debate in the first place only means that whoever handed you a high school diploma needs to be brought up on charges for being an accessory to dumb.

People are b****-slapping you in this thread. People are laughing at you in this thread. This forum is a kind of restaurant where critical thinkers are used to feasting on pate, truffles, and filet mignon. In you stumble and bounce from table to table trying to share your bag of Cheetos and you wanna know why people won't bite?

But you just keep on munching that "nourishing" snack. Eat 'em day in and day out and maybe you'll get to your final hospital bed earlier than predicted. And when you wheeze your last, those left behind will frown, shake their heads, and say...

I never thought he'd shut the hell up.
 
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There was no visible flaming debris falling from the towers so what ya talking about?

You mean like a firefall of molten metal?

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Wrong again, my ever-fixéd fool.

How does it feel?​
 
Look bucko you really don't want to goad me into sept 11 debate, I will wax your official story believin arse and make you want butt sex...
And I have asked you again and again for such a debate and you have run away like a frightened little girl.
 
nookular ... nookular .... nookular
Look, surely geggy's just one of those socially handicapped halfwits who get their kicks out of being stupid in public?

Exhibitionism, I think it's called.

I mean, how else do we explain his behavior?
 
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