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Loose Change

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geggy said:
Again for the 80th time, go to this link, click on "detonate" and looook veeeery clooosely to the way it collapsed.
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And? Once again I ask how did you expect WTC7 to collapse.

I doubt the fire was even that hot enough to bring down wtc7.
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It burned for seven hours completely uncontrolled. Evidence has shown that burning office materials are more than sufficient to cause structural problems for even intact buildings. Study the Meridian fire in Philadelphia sometime and learn something real for a change.

By the way how did the fire ever get started in WTC7? Does anyone have a good link to explain that?
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Golly. Cuz nothing says 'fireproof' like thousands of tons of burning debris falling on you.
 
Seriously... this seems like some sort of a role-playing game to these CT'ers.

People like Delphi, Gravy, Kookbreaker, etc are just NPC's. CT'er only have to listen to the NPC's info in order to figure out how to solve the puzzle which opens the portal to the land of Logic and Reason, but instead the CT'ers just keep banging on it with their Rambling rusty dagger of Incoherency. Pretty soon, Geggy will limp back to wherever he came from once he tires of getting his butt kicked, as his shield of "Argument from Ignorance" and armour of "Common Sense Tells Me..." are insufficient for high level adventuring.

Of course, another brash young adventurer will take his place eventually.

(By the way, you guys have done an incredible job researching this, and shown a lot of patience with the ever-revolving door of stupidity. Much like Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job.)
 
Gravy said:
Non Permissive of Conspiracists?
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Non-Player Characters. The characters you walk up to in a game an they can only say something about needing the magic flute to put the golem to sleep. Or whatever. It's hardly a perfect analogy...
 
geggy said:
So the US and Israel are hyping up the Iran prez's threat to paint him as crazier than he already is.
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Better yet, how crazy should a head of state get before the international commity should start to worry?

Is your frontal lobe alright geggy?
 
money said:
Seriously... this seems like some sort of a role-playing game to these CT'ers.

People like Delphi, Gravy, Kookbreaker, etc are just NPC's. CT'er only have to listen to the NPC's info in order to figure out how to solve the puzzle which opens the portal to the land of Logic and Reason, but instead the CT'ers just keep banging on it with their Rambling rusty dagger of Incoherency. Pretty soon, Geggy will limp back to wherever he came from once he tires of getting his butt kicked, as his shield of "Argument from Ignorance" and armour of "Common Sense Tells Me..." are insufficient for high level adventuring.

Of course, another brash young adventurer will take his place eventually.

(By the way, you guys have done an incredible job researching this, and shown a lot of patience with the ever-revolving door of stupidity. Much like Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job.)
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I think their quest is more along the lines of, "How can I rationalize the questions the NPCs keep repeating?" At first they deny the existence of the questions. Then they try re-directing the conversation with some non sequiturs. Eventually they just add another layer of BS to their theory and the process starts all over again.
 
geggy said:
Ya don't get it. Like the US, Iran signed a treaty to have a right to bear nookular arms. Uranium used for nookular weapons would need to be enriched in nookular plant at 90 percent. Iran is currently at 3 percent, meaning they are tenths of hundreds of years away from possessing nookular weapons. So the US and Israel are hyping up the Iran prez's threat to paint him as crazier than he already is.

Again for the 80th time, go to this link, click on "detonate" and looook veeeery clooosely to the way it collapsed.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/building-implosion1.htm

I doubt the fire was even that hot enough to bring down wtc7. By the way how did the fire ever get started in WTC7? Does anyone have a good link to explain that?
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And yet you ignore the picture on the second page labelled "Columns are fully loaded with explosives and hooked up to blasting caps and fuses.". Don't you think people would of noticed that little spider web?
 
Mongrel said:
And yet you ignore the picture on the second page labelled "Columns are fully loaded with explosives and hooked up to blasting caps and fuses.". Don't you think people would of noticed that little spider web?
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geggy wants us to believe that during the week-end long power down of the WTC, not only did "they" have time to rig everything up, in all three buildings, but also had time to cover everything before the next buisiness morning.

Or that "they" might have paid everyone working in the WTC buildings to keep questions to themselves about the wiring surrounding them.

Or that maybe the charges were remote controlled and didn't require wiring.
 
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Pardalis said:
geggy wants us to believe that during the week-end long power down of the WTC, not only did "they" have time to rig everything up, in all three buildings, but also had time to cover everything before the next buisiness morning.
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Despite the fact that the "weekend long power down of the WTC" was only in one building (WTC2, IIRC), and they still got WTC 1 and 7 wired.
 
pgwenthold said:
Despite the fact that the "weekend long power down of the WTC" was only in one building (WTC2, IIRC), and they still got WTC 1 and 7 wired.
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And only in part of WTC2. And the cable upgrades were successfully done, so the work crew had to include the networking experts plus the demolitions crew. And then there's the repair and cleanup...

The more you think about it, the more sense it makes!
 
Gravy said:
And only in part of WTC2. And the cable upgrades were successfully done, so the work crew had to include the networking experts plus the demolitions crew. And then there's the repair and cleanup...

The more you think about it, the more sense it makes!
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In line of what I said back in post 1898, I think, let me add "the towers could have been wired during the weekend long power outage" as another deception perpetrated by the CTers of the type that you won't find in the conventional explanation.

I could understand it if you just heard it, but you would think that anyone who does a little bit of work would recognize immediately how bogus it is. Thus, to perpetuate the nonsense requires that you are either just parroting others without any consideration of the facts, or you are a lying sack of snot, neither of which says much about the CTers quest for truth.

An honest person who claims to have "seen Loose Change and thinks it raises some interesting questions" might, after seeing that some are so blatent false, start to question the rest of what they say. Instead, our current respondant more or less just ignores it and goes on to the next. Unless it is so blatently bad that he says he is going to check back in with the CTers to see how they respond, but then again, ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.
 
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