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chipmunk stew said:
Has anyone involved in these discussions thought about updating the SkepticWiki?
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I've thought about it, and though I have done tons of reading and have lots of useful bookmarks, have no real new information of my own to contribute.

I would like to see Gravy's evidence from Mark Loiseaux posted there for posterity.

Delphi's work with physics should be up there (as far as I can understand it :boggled: :) ).
 
I think I just set a new record. I registered at Loose Change yesterday and asked some questions about their rules. Today, I am suspended until May 11, 2006 at 4:28 am.

Wow. I didn't even say anything controversial. Could someone who is still registered over there please ask why I was suspended? Thanks.
 
NobbyNobbs said:
I think I just set a new record. I registered at Loose Change yesterday and asked some questions about their rules. Today, I am suspended until May 11, 2006 at 4:28 am.

Wow. I didn't even say anything controversial. Could someone who is still registered over there please ask why I was suspended? Thanks.
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Until MAY? Wahahahahaha!

It's like a mandatory waiting period before a handgun purchase: they don't want you doing anything rash with that brain of yours.

What despicable cowards.
 
NobbyNobbs said:
Wow. I didn't even say anything controversial. Could someone who is still registered over there please ask why I was suspended? Thanks.
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What, and get suspended?

Scott: It's no hassle...
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: But...
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: Um...
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: All I'm saying...
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: They're gonna get awa...
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: I'm just...
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: We...
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: We...
Dr. Evil: Shh! Knock, knock.
Scott: Who's there?
Dr. Evil: Shh!
Scott: Look...
Dr. Evil: Shh! Let me tell you a little story about a man named Shh! Shh! Even before you start. That was a preemptive Shh. Just know I have a whole bag of Shh with your name on it.
 
Asking too many questions- that’s a suspending
Thinking critically- that’s a suspending
Asking "how" CD was carried out- that’s a suspending
Claiming that civilian aircraft hit the WTC- that's a suspending
Asking what you'll get suspended for- that’s a suspending

Suspending a PCT nut over a vat of their own filth- oh you'd better believe that's a suspending. In other news, Troy has now been appointed as the new admin of the loose change forum; Roxdog has lodged a complaint that this new admin is "too soft on the conspiracy-deniers".
 
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brodski said:
Asking too many questions- that’s a suspending
Thinking critically- that’s a suspending
Asking "how" CD was carried out- that’s a suspending
Claiming that civilian aircraft hit the WTC- that's a suspending
Asking what you'll get suspended for- that’s a suspending

Suspending a PCT nut over a vat of their own filth- oh you'd better believe that's a suspending. In other news, Troy has now been appointed as the new admin of the loose change forum; Roxdog has lodged a complaint that this new admin is "too soft on the conspiracy-deniers".
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paddling the school canoe - oh you'd better believe that's a paddling...

those guys are really running scared over there.
nice work everyone.
 
Dr Adequate said:
I've added senorpogo's references.
If there are more True Believer sites that should be linked, let me know.

(Or register and edit the thing yourself, of course.)
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Thanks, Dr. That's the first time I've seen that article. I'll do some updating when I can.
 
Looser Mod Hilarity Continues

These guys absofreakinlutely kill me.

Over the weekend, NobbyNobbs registered here and at Loose Change. Since there had been such hubbub over bans and suspensions at LC, Nobby's first post asked about the parameters: what constituted an offense worthy of banniing?

Loose Change Mod FM258 replied (highlighting mine)

Nothing that wouldn't get you banned at any other message board.

Trolling
Abusive language
personal attacks
busting mods chops
spamming

No one here gets banned because of their views, we welcome constructive criticism and positive debate. All the theories here need to pass muster, and if they don't then they should be discredited. And that happens. What we will no longer put up with is people posting just to be disruptive.

Like other sites, we have an agenda, theres no denying that. We obviously feel that we were all lied to about the events of 9/11/01. That is why we are here, to gain support for what we hope will force a new and unbiased investigation.

So, after reading through the many threads we have, if you feel like theres no way you were lied to, and the events happen just as you were told they happened, then its best if you did not post here. We feel passionate about this mission and hope you will also. The truth needs to be known, whatever it may be.

Help us get there.
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NobbyNobbs Posted on Loose Change Apr 11 2006, 04:25 AM
Well, see, this is why I asked, and it's a good thing I did, because I'm still a little confused. I've seen some people banned for being abusive towards others, calling names...but then again, others haven't been banned for the same thing. I'm wondering if there are names that are allowed and some that aren't, or if it's random, or what? Also, what do you mean by "pass muster"?
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FM258
Posted: Apr 11 2006, 04:28 AM
See you in 30 days troll.
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(Edited to highlight even more stupidity)
 
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Gravy said:
These guys absofreakinlutely kill me.

Over the weekend, NobbyNobbs registered here and at Loose Change. Since there had been such hubbub over bans and suspensions at LC, Nobby's first post asked about the parameters: what constituted an offense worthy of banniing?

Loose Change Mod FM258 replied (highlighting mine)


NobbyNobbs Posted on Loose Change Apr 11 2006, 04:25 AM

FM258
Posted: Apr 11 2006, 04:28 AM
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So, let's see if I have this straight:

F:)k off and die -- 48 hour suspension.
Combative style -- 7 day suspension.
What are your rules? -- 1 month suspension.
Well-reasoned rebuttals -- banned.
Moderating a PCT forum -- priceless.
 
Every time I think the Loose Change moderators can't get any lower, they grab a shovel and prove me wrong.
 
I'm trying to decide whether to be offended that I was suspended or to be proud that my questions are too sensible.

The amazing thing is, I honestly have a few unanswered questions about 9/11, and decided to register at both forums to get both sides of the answers and make my own decision.

What Loose Change has done is force me to get all the info from one forum, thus *highly* reducing the chances I will subscribe to their point of view on anything.

If they ban the fence-sitters, there is no hope for them. It's like the Shaker religion. It was against their tenets to procreate. And now they don't exist anymore.
 
CTers don't want fence sitters. Fence sitters are too open to having their opinions changed. Even if they come to believe some or most of whatever the conspiracy theory happens to be, they're too liable to forcefully and convincingly debunk the parts they don't believe, perhaps becoming leaders of the movement in the process by virtue of their intellectual honestly.

They want the weak-minded. The young, the stupid, the emotional. Because more than in the theory itself, they want somebody to believe in them. In other conspiracy theories, that only involves slandering some people. In this one it means actively aiding al Qaeda. It matters not to a dedicated CTer.
 
NobbyNobbs said:
I'm trying to decide whether to be offended that I was suspended or to be proud that my questions are too sensible.

The amazing thing is, I honestly have a few unanswered questions about 9/11, and decided to register at both forums to get both sides of the answers and make my own decision.

What Loose Change has done is force me to get all the info from one forum, thus *highly* reducing the chances I will subscribe to their point of view on anything.

If they ban the fence-sitters, there is no hope for them. It's like the Shaker religion. It was against their tenets to procreate. And now they don't exist anymore.
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Well, Nobby, it does suck that you're suspended, but my few days with them was very depressing. I've never seen any group of people, anywhere, be so consistently wrong and so unwilling to seek the truth. They are extremely paranoid, and I don't use that word lightly. It's so sad.
I'd be glad to try to answer any 9/11 related questions you might have...I've had quite an education in the past 2 weeks. If you're skeptical about the skeptics here, the last few pages of this thread list many outside resources to find answers to 9/11 questions.
 
My imitation of how Loose Change Forum will look in short order:

CT#1: I believe explosives were used to bring down the WTC!
CT#2: Me too!
CT#3: Me Too!
Moderator: Everybody agrees! Yay!

CT#2: I believe 10 pounds of explosives were used to bring it down.
CT#1: I think it was more!
CT#3: I think it was less!
Moderator: Yay! Solid debate!

CT#3: I think the explosives were brought in a backpack!
CT#2: I think they were brought in a suitcase!
CT#1: HERETIC!
Moderator: Banned!
 
kookbreaker said:
My imitation of how Loose Change Forum will look in short order:

CT#1: I believe explosives were used to bring down the WTC!
CT#2: Me too!
CT#3: Me Too!
Moderator: Everybody agrees! Yay!

CT#2: I believe 10 pounds of explosives were used to bring it down.
CT#1: I think it was more!
CT#3: I think it was less!
Moderator: Yay! Solid debate!

CT#3: I think the explosives were brought in a backpack!
CT#2: I think they were brought in a suitcase!
CT#1: HERETIC!
Moderator: Banned!
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Whew! Just in time to save Iran from US Imperialism!
 
Take The $10,000 Challenge!, by simply steering a plane

Hey, now The Truth has a challenge too!:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2106

e.t.a. Oh, they don't even have the money.

Now here’s the catch, since Hani Hanjour was on a suicide mission, you have only ONE chance to commandeer the 757 into the Pentagon and since it’s hard to simulate the feelings of knowing you are going to die soon from crashing your plane into your intended target, you have to bet the flight school $10,000 that you can do it in ONE try. Oh, and you have to be going over 500mph the entire time.
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OK... I watched the entire Loose Change "documentary" all the way through, from beginning to end. I kept an open mind and I gave each point careful consideration. The "evidence" clearly points in one direction...

These people were born with their brains upside down.
 
What a great "challenge!" 'Well, the guy puts up ten grand, see? And if he fails, he pays it. And if he passes, well, some other guy puts up ten grand, see?'
 
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